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pieanne  #155183  Fri, 04 Nov 05 05:08 PM

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Two meanings of "meet" and "know"... yet the sentences were bare... Embarrassed [:$]

 

  
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Tallulah Tam  #155210  Fri, 04 Nov 05 06:35 PM

Pieanne, (or anyone) what would you take the following exchange to mean:-

Question:- "Did you ever meet him?"

Answer:-  "Yes, I met him five years ago."

  
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Tallulah Tam  #155218  Fri, 04 Nov 05 06:49 PM

I think for clearer understanding of the spoken language one needs to use the same words as the questioner.

Questoner:-  Know,

Answer:-  Knew, known.

Questioner:-  Meet.

Answer:-   Met.

  
pieanne  #155220  Fri, 04 Nov 05 06:56 PM
 Tallulah Tam wrote:

Pieanne, (or anyone) what would you take the following exchange to mean:-

Question:- "Did you ever meet him?"

Answer:-  "Yes, I met him five years ago."

I was introduced to him 5 years ago.

 

  
MrPedantic  #155316  Sat, 05 Nov 05 01:49 AM
 Tallulah Tam wrote:

Pieanne, (or anyone) what would you take the following exchange to mean:-

Question:- "Did you ever meet him?"

Answer:-  "Yes, I met him five years ago."

The question here implies some previous discussion of "him", which eliminates the ambiguity – e.g.

It's a beautiful painting, isn't it?
— Yes, it is.
I believe the artist lives in Sicily now.
— Yes, that's what I've heard too.
Did you ever meet him?
— Yes, I met him five years ago.

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Anonymous  #155342  Sat, 05 Nov 05 04:45 AM

Hi,

    I would just like to ask :

     I know him for five years. ------ wrong?

     I know him. ------- correct?

How do you explain these?

  
Tallulah Tam  #155438  Sat, 05 Nov 05 03:44 PM

Anonymous,  I answered that question some time ago.

Know  =  Present tense.

Known =  Past participle.

 So "I know him" is correct.  (you are talking about NOW)

"I know him for five years" is in the past, so it is not a correctly worded sentence.

 You need to put HAVE in the sentence.

 When you introduce HAVE into the sentence the word "know" becomes "known"

Therefore the correct sentence is "I have known him for five years."

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pieanne  #155440  Sat, 05 Nov 05 03:55 PM

Well, I wouldn't say "I know him for five years" is in the past... It expresses the duration of your "knowledge" of him up to this day. It encompasses both past & present. Only the present perfect (have + known, as Tallulah said) can express that. had it been in the past you would have used the simple past with ago, or with a "date": I knew him five years ago, or I knew him in 2.000

 

  
Tallulah Tam  #155443  Sat, 05 Nov 05 04:08 PM

Dear Mr. P.

Imagine this scene:-

Two women are sitting in a bar in Palma de Mallorca chatting.

One woman notices a man across the room looking their way. She leans over to the other woman and says:-

"Have you ever met him?"

The other woman relpies, "Yes I met him five years ago."

The first woman then asks "Where?"

The second woman states "At a conference."

Or this:-

Same scene.

First woman: "Do you know him?"

Second woman: "Yes, I have known him for five years."

First woman:  "How do you know him?"

Second woman:  "I am married to him."

Same scene.

First woman:  "Do you know him?"

Second woman:  "Yes, I knew him five years ago."

First woman:  "Oh, what happened?"

Second woman:  "We got divorced."

In each case follow up information is required for clarification but there is no implication that there was previous discussion with him.

Respectfully yours,

Tallulah

 

  
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