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Anonymous  +  572051 Wed, 01 Oct 08 03:02 AM
Hi,
Please take a look at this long sentence (complex sentence?) and answer this question.
 
The teachers had given orders that if anyone found the answer to the question, he or she should notify the teachers so that they might verify it. 

Do the modals 'should' and 'might' have any sense of the past? I think they are all present in their implications.

How about this?
They had given orders that if the members should find the missing person, the members should notify them so they might verify whether the missing person found is indeed the person we were looking for.
CalifJim  +  572062 Wed, 01 Oct 08 03:42 AM
 
Anonymous
“ Do the modals 'should' and 'might' have any sense of the past? I think they are all present in their implications.”
Yes, they do have a sense of the past.  Modals in subordinate clauses often take on the characteristics of the time frame set up by the main clause.

The teachers gave these orders:

If anyone finds the answer, he should (at the time of finding) notify the teachers so that they may verify it.

Backshifted: 

The teachers had given these orders:

If anyone found the answer, he should (at the time of finding) notify the teachers so that they might verify it.

Thus:

had given is the backshift of gave; found, of finds; should, of should; might, of may.  (should is its own backshift.) 

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Your second example works the same way.  The only difference I notice is the addition of a different kind of should in the if clause -- "evaluative should", not the "advisability should" seen in other places in your two examples.

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Uses of should are sometimes somewhat indeterminate in tense, and other tenses in the sentence have to be used as clues. 

CJ 

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