Hi Admiralseo,

About 75%(It's just a guess, I'm a simple user too) or more of the people currently Registered and using this forum aren't native English speakers, including me.

Studying is good, and certainly is one of the best ways to improving.But you know what they say:"Practice makes the man perfect". May be you should also look in that direction

Hi Friends

Of couse this plateform is specially for people like us and English language is the tool to overcome the barrier between our communication.

What we do here infact  try to be the familiar with the tool(English Language).As much we will explore it with the experiences of each other we would be more familiar with this.Some key points if these could helpfull for others in concern of learning then this would be my pleasure.

We need the inner curiosity in simple words our interest.

We need to do daily practice for being in touch with English Language.. Its either we can do atleast 15 minutes reading, listening or more if we are servious to learn it.

Reading the dailiy news paper or any thing in which you have interest but in English language.

this is best if we can find someone to sit with us and communicate with us in English language.Some times we do not find someone in our company so we need to keep listning English radio.

Do not forget that Only one Reading thing cannot bring you far in your English language Learning Effort. So  that is why we need to emphasise on READING, WRITING LISTNING AND SPEAKING ALL FOUR SKILLS. ALL THESE ARE IMPORANT.

We should never feel shy or hesitate to speak, or write or read or listening . Beacuse we can do mistakes then we can correct them .If we will not do mistakes then we can't correct them.

In the End i would like to say Friends this is all the matter of interest infact then the ways to learn come afterwards and everyone finds different ways which make him stronger to stuck on the way of his interest .

Good luck

Byee

Faisal

Fasi wrote:

overcome the barrier  inner curiosity           interest.  daily practice atleast 15 minutes reading, listening or more   dailiy news paper or any thing in which you have interest but in English language.  best find someone to communicate with in English   to  listning English radio.  emphasise on READING, WRITING LISTNING AND SPEAKING ALL FOUR SKILLS. ALL THESE ARE IMPORANT. never feel shy or hesitate to speak, or write or read or listening .  we can do mistakes then we can correct them .If we will not do mistakes then we can't correct them. this is all the matter of interest infact then the ways to learn come afterwards and everyone finds different ways which make him stronger to stuck on the way of his interest .

Hi Faisal

I selected key points in your texts.  The whole thing is absolutely beautiful.

First key, interest.  This is the source of your motivation.  Why do you want to learn English?  Can you foresee where/when/why you will use it?  Return to this in your mind often to nourish your, "I want to learn English."  The more you want, the better you will learn/do/succeed.

A new born is months before s/he learns to say "mama" (or her/his first word).   S/he is also a few years before acquiring  structured speach, and many more years before reaching fluency in her/his mother tongue.  The order is listen(hear)/speak/read/write.  The more you talk (yourself actually making the effort to communicate with someone - it can be "pretend"- the more you intergrate the use of the language), the more confident you feel, and the quicker you get over possible self-consciouness.  You also acquire the "habit" of ...  functioning in English.  The whole though will take time.   The more you are "involved" in functioning in English, the "quicker" you you become skilled.  It my never end for you.  It is "work in progress".  At least till you are satisfied with your ability, and quit making any effort to improve.

If you are able to find the "good way" progress opportunity to learn English within a context, or many, that are of particular interest to you, that would likely make it easier for you to learn.  Examles: chatting with someone you like (in person/Internet/other); reading a comic strip that you like; listening to a musical group whose music pleases you working on understanding what they are saying: writing letters, etc.  Exploring the four realms, as Faisal pointed out.

In reading you, I thought that you were going through a moment of discouragement.  Learn to encourage yourself, or seek it where it can be given to you (as you have done here).

Persist.

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