Here's a breakdown of which states voted for which candidate in the 2004 presidential election.  Blue states are those won by John Kerry, and red states are those won by George Bush.  The numbers you see are the total electoral votes each state has, which is supposed to be a reflection of its population.  Keep in mind that if 51% of a state voted for George Bush, while 49% voted for John Kerry, Bush would get all the electoral votes from that state.  The trend you may notice is that states with large urban populations tended to vote for Kerry, while more rural states voted for Bush.

Janissary wrote:

thnx for your explanation and information yc. the same thing is valid for Turkey, as well. The more industrialized,improved states are the more liberal states. The less industrialized,rural are more conservative.

YoungCalifornian wrote:

In response to this, let me just say that I totally agree with Lazarus.  Trust us Janissary, Americans want out of Iraq as fast as reasonably possible.

Is that because you are losing that war? You skipped Vietnam, a little too late mind you, when you realised you were losing that one.

<Americans want out of Iraq as fast as reasonably possible>

.More than half the Americans that were polled, actually. Still less than half a lot want to stay in.

The figures:

In the latest USA TODAY poll, a record 60% of those surveyed, including one in four Republicans, said the war wasn't "worth it." One in five Republicans said the invasion of Iraq was "a mistake."

Among independents, 60% called the war a mistake; 85% of Democrats agreed. There was no gender gap on the issue — that is, no difference in the opinions of men and women — but there was a racial divide. Half of whites saw the war as a mistake. Among blacks, that view was almost universal, held by 95%.

Concern over the course and costs of the Iraq war has become a major factor in unease about the direction of the country generally. In January, a 58% majority said things were going well for the United States. By this month, only 49% said things were going well.

Most of those who say things are going well in the country support the war. Most who say things are going badly — 50% of those polled — call it a mistake.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-11-15-poll-vietnam_x.htm

Lazarus wrote:

Milky wrote: Is that because you are losing that war? You skipped Vietnam, a little too late mind you, when you realised you were losing that one. milky-- What you've written here is a schoolyard bait.  If you think Americans want out of Iraq because they are "losing it" (as if we were ever winning anything), your perspective isn't native, that's for sure.  As far as Vietnam, let sleeping dogs lie.  That dog has been sleeping a long time. Lazarus

There's no bait there, Lazarus. It's a fair question and the present situation has parallels with the one around the pull out from Vietnam.

So, tell us why you think that 54% of Americans want out.

Lazarus wrote:

Milky wrote:  Lazarus wrote:  Milky wrote: Is that because you are losing that war? You skipped Vietnam, a little too late mind you, when you realised you were losing that one. milky-- What you've written here is a schoolyard bait.  If you think Americans want out of Iraq because they are "losing it" (as if we were ever winning anything), your perspective isn't native, that's for sure.  As far as Vietnam, let sleeping dogs lie.  That dog has been sleeping a long time. Lazarus So, tell us why you think that 54% of Americans want out. Because many Americans feel they were bamboozled into going there to begin with.  It's got nothing to do with how hard it is there.  It has to do with our lack of objectives there. Lazarus

And maybe these things:

Cost of America's War in Iraq