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Lazarus
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Sat, 04 Mar 06 04:44 PM
 Milky wrote: | | Lazarus wrote: | | Milky wrote: | | Lazarus wrote: | | Milky wrote: |
Is that because you are losing that war? You skipped Vietnam, a
little too late mind you, when you realised you were losing that one.
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milky--
What you've written here is a schoolyard
bait. If you think Americans want out of Iraq because they are
"losing it" (as if we were ever winning anything), your perspective
isn't native, that's for sure. As far as Vietnam, let sleeping
dogs lie. That dog has been sleeping a long time.
Lazarus
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So, tell us why you think that 54% of Americans want out.
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Because many Americans feel they were bamboozled
into going there to begin with. It's got nothing to do with how
hard it is there. It has to do with our lack of objectives there.
Lazarus
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And maybe these things:
Cost of America's War in Iraq
$244,838,794,045
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Number of U.S. Military Personnel Slaughtered (Officially acknowledged) In America's War 2298
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
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If a government deceives its own people as a strategy to enter a war,
the growing costs and rising death tolls naturally add fuel to the
fire, yes. But don't miss the big picture. Personally, I would
feel content with these things if I felt there was legitimate purpose
in our currently being in Iraq.
Regards--
Lazarus
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milky
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Sat, 04 Mar 06 05:23 PM
<<If a government deceives its own people as a strategy to enter a war, the growing costs and rising death tolls naturally add fuel to the fire, yes. But don't miss the big picture. Personally, I would feel content with these things if I felt there was legitimate purpose in our currently being in Iraq. Regards-- Lazarus >>
Surely the reason is to help clean up the mess you helped make. The invasion caused a destabilisation which is still in place. The idea is to stay there and responsibly help put things in balance, isn't it?
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Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought".
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Lazarus
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Sun, 05 Mar 06 06:39 AM
| Milky wrote: | |
<<If a government deceives its
own people as a strategy to enter a war, the growing costs and rising
death tolls naturally add fuel to the fire, yes. But don't miss
the big picture. Personally, I would feel content with these things if
I felt there was legitimate purpose in our currently being in Iraq.
Regards--
Lazarus
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Surely the reason is to help clean up the mess you helped make. The
invasion caused a destabilisation which is still in place. The idea is
to stay there and responsibly help put things in balance, isn't it? |
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As far as the mess in Iraq, I didn't take any part in it.
Language is refreshingly revealing when we least intend it. Take care, milky.
Lazarus
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milky
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Sun, 05 Mar 06 11:26 AM
| Lazarus wrote: | | Milky wrote: | |
<<If a government deceives its own people as a strategy to enter a war, the growing costs and rising death tolls naturally add fuel to the fire, yes. But don't miss the big picture. Personally, I would feel content with these things if I felt there was legitimate purpose in our currently being in Iraq.
Regards--
Lazarus
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Surely the reason is to help clean up the mess you helped make. The invasion caused a destabilisation which is still in place. The idea is to stay there and responsibly help put things in balance, isn't it?
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As far as the mess in Iraq, I didn't take any part in it.
Language is refreshingly revealing when we least intend it. Take care, milky.
Lazarus
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"You" was used in the impersonal form. You = America.
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Janissary
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Sun, 05 Mar 06 02:39 PM
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Cost of America's War in Iraq
$244,838,794,045
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how a big sum compared with the 23.000.000 $ help to Kenya out of 225.000.000 that was promised to have given as help.
ten thousands times bigger. what an equality?what a world we are living in? i hate this world and all of its inequalities.thats all
regards
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speak english or die
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MrPedantic
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Sun, 05 Mar 06 04:33 PM
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"You" was used in the impersonal form. You = America.
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In the impersonal form, "you" = "one".
1. "You can't make an omelette without cracking eggs" = "one can't make an omelette..."
The equivalent "impersonal" sentence would therefore be:
2. "Surely the reason is to help clear up the mess one helped make."
If "you" = "America", it simply means "you who live in America". Nothing impersonal about that.
MrP
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...opella forensis / adducit febris...
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milky
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Sun, 05 Mar 06 11:55 PM
| MrPedantic wrote: | | Milky wrote: | |
"You" was used in the impersonal form. You = America.
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In the impersonal form, "you" = "one".
1. "You can't make an omelette without cracking eggs" = "one can't make an omelette..."
The equivalent "impersonal" sentence would therefore be:
2. "Surely the reason is to help clear up the mess one helped make."
If "you" = "America", it simply means "you who live in America". Nothing impersonal about that.
MrP
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Sorry bout that, I meant the plural form. Tiredness, family troubles, etc.
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MrPedantic
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Mon, 06 Mar 06 01:11 AM
Well, in any case, I seem to have gone into grammar forum mode in Controversial. Bad habit...bad form...
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milky
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Mon, 06 Mar 06 01:39 AM
| MrPedantic wrote: | | Well, in any case, I seem to have gone into grammar forum mode in Controversial. Bad habit...bad form... |
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You're slipping.
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