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Mythical Lady
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Sun, 09 Jul 06 04:05 PM
Thanks for the correction and the info again.
But I think you mean (the correct verb is breast feed, not bread feast as you wrote) as it's clearly shown in the sentences to follow.
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Phuongninhbao
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Sat, 15 Jul 06 03:54 PM
Hi1 Everybody. Thanks for some information about" The Grapes of wrath". I always think the author likes to find special cases in order to attract readers to pursue all of the long story. If he tells only a happy life in a normal family, there is nothing to make people moved to tears. So, he should gather all thing to make we cry, laugh and sad such as some stories about breast feeding. Normally, we respect the person who breasts feed us like our mother if our mother couldn't breast feed us. .However, in the novel, the writer often searches the emotional situation to develop the story.In the past,in our country, when people didn't lift the embargo, we should breast feed for two years to avoid some diseases to our children. Now, we have a lot of medicine, vitamin, milk etc..... so, we reduce it for a year. As you know, milk of breast feeding is very precious, it contains a lot of substance which prevents some infection of diseases. I've seen in a film, a man was very frighten to drink this milk in the refregerator which is kept for baby. Some women like to keep their beauty don't breast feed their child, will be regret in the future. Milk in a can or in powder with a high price never has a better result then milk from breast feeding.This is why some women help the others to suply their milk to some babies and they keep it in the fridge.
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Irene L
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Sun, 16 Jul 06 02:40 PM
I just wondered about Noah… Connie’s behavior is clearly selfish, but he wasn’t from this family originally, he joined Joads recently. But Noah was born in this family and brought up by Ma, so how could he leave his family? Maybe his brain was really injured in birth, or that’s the consequence of being the firstborn (sometimes an eldest child thinks that he isn’t as beloved as juniors), or was it the fault of upbringing? I doubt Steinbeck thought of this character without any purpose (see, even a turtle crossing the road means something ). I thought maybe I didn’t read this novel carefully enough to find it out.
Phuongninhbao, I wish I could talk about ‘The Thorn Birds’, but unfortunately I haven’t read it, so I’m sorry for being unable to comment it. Your story about breastfeeding is very interesting; I’ve never heard of something like that in our traditions. I agree with you that any BABY FORMULA, even the most expensive one, cannot replace natural mother’s milk; and therefore a mother ought to breast feed a baby as long as she CAN, not as long as she WANTS TO. Breastfeeding also helps a mother bond with her baby.
My baby was fed with ‘baby formula’ for a while, and I regret it very much. I had to go to hospital for a fortnight (my baby was only 1 month then), so I had to stop breastfeed him. My parents spoon-fed him with baby formula (I forbade the bottle-feeding, to prevent baby’s rejection the breast). And after checking out from the hospital I realized that there wasn’t enough milk produced to resume a full-scale breastfeeding. It took us almost 2 months (and much patience) to restore lactation completely; I’ve read a pile of books and magazines and a lot of information in the Internet to find out how to do it. But now I’m glad to have no problems with it. ![Smile [:)]](/emoticons/emotion-1.gif)
I have a question for all, but it is off-topic, too: Is the breastfeeding by nurse (instead of mother) widespread in your countries or is the bottle feeding is more common today? (If you don’t mind me asking.) In my country bottle feeding is very common, and nurse feeding is very rare.
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Roybato
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Sun, 16 Jul 06 02:53 PM
Why on earth should you continue something you find very stupid...or a little lesser than that. I suggest you read stuffs like.... dont know what to recommend, Anyway... hope you have a fine day.
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Mythical Lady
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Mon, 17 Jul 06 01:05 AM
Hi again
I share your point Irene about the character of Noah. As I've written before, I considered Noah as a flat character yet his presence serves something in the plot. Honestly reading the novel on the purpose of analyzing and criticizing is something I am not very good at. But generally speaking I enjoy reading the novels. It is something running in blood since a very early age.
I don't know much about breast feeding except those articles stating its great benefit to babies. One of my aunts kept breast feeding one of his children till the age of 5 !!! It's just when we made a joke of him, he stopped doing that. But now he is in shape and healthy teen. Any way about the popularity of breast feeding in my country, hmmm it's something honorable particularly by women of relatively old ages, but these women of my generation, they usually refer to bottle feeding.
To Roybato: I laugh after reading your post. Still I am not sure from where you got the idea that we are discussing something we find stupid. But if you have good things, we wait for your recommendations ![Wink [;)]](/emoticons/emotion-5.gif)
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Phuongninhbao
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Mon, 17 Jul 06 02:42 PM
Hey, Roybato!
I'm very happy to receive your post. Why do you call stuffs our long message? Did you read all of them? No matter what kinds of comment, it also expresses your interest about the book. I hope one day, someone will design this story into a game. I think it will be very difficult to make these characters run and die such as the treasury course in the "Da vinci" film. By the way, are you Muslim? Do you believe the fate, the destiny? Have you ever met earthquakes? There was once in all my life, I was in the operating room. I didn't know why all thing dropped on the floor. We had to finish our work and when we went out of the room , we were very frightened to see people's faces in the emergency exits. they were hurried to the lifts. It seemed they were survivors.Besides stuffs, have you anything to talk about this book? I like to hear something about the modern people think about it.,I think it's very interesting.
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Anonymous,
1 yr 312 days ago
I'm an eighth grader who read this book, and i found it outstanding. This novel was a required reading for us at my school in my Advanced Literature class, and ended up loving this book. I think that John Steinbeck did a great job tying together history, reality, and teaching us so much from this novel. Grapes of Wrath has so many Biblical parallels. My teacher had the class read this book, and after we read it, he showed us so much that we missed about it. Ex: Jim Casey was a preacher, and sacraficed himself to save someone else. Jim Casey. JC. Jesus Christ. Also, if you noticed, there were 12 people (plus Jim Casey) on the trip to California. Remind you of anything? How about Jesus Christ and the 12 Disciples. It's also historically correct, from what I've learned, and I think that it should be a required reading for everyone in my grade, not just advanced classes. I believe it's a great book that teaches you to appreciate your possessions, which would be a good lesson for teenagers today.
Carlotta
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216 days ago
Dear Mythical lady:
I am currently an American Student and just finished reading The Grapes of Wrath. Honestly the first 100-200 pages can get a bit confusing and boring, but stay with it. The ending to the book is definetly worth it. By the way I do not speek like the characters in the book. They mostly speek in the slang of the time,(the early 1950's) making their language outdated for the current culture.
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Adrenochrome
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Sun, 03 May 09 06:11 PM
Oh God, no.
Life is too short.
I'm English and teach students. Being English, not American, I am a bit of a snob when it comes to literature.
'The Grapes of Wrath' is an important book within American literature. It is well written and is set during an important time in American history, the Great Depression of the 1920s. However, I would never ecommend this book to anyone studying English language (whether Standard or American English). It is really only advanced students of American literature or history who would gain from reading the book. There is a good film version starring Henry Fonda. (I wouldn't normally recommend watching a film of a book, I'd usually recommend reading the book, but this is one of a small number of exceptions.)
If you wish to read something by John Steinbeck, then I would recommend 'The Pearl'.
Also, avoid 'War and Peace' by Count Leo Tolstoy.
No, Americans do not speak the same nowadays as they did in the 1920s. The slang and colloquial words have changed a lot, especially since the 1950s. If you like the language used, you might enjoy F. Scott Fitzgerald's 'The Great Gatsby', which is a superbly written love story set in 1920s America.
Depending on how confident you are about your English abilities, I can offer you some other titles that you might enjoy. To me as a teacher of English, I am a strong believer in promoting enjoyment of the language. When someone enjoys something, learning comes more easily to them. There are many great, enjoyable and beautiful books written in English, by authors from around the world.
If you would let me know your approximate age and what your interests are, I would be glad to recommend some novels that would be more enjoyable, understandable and ueful than Mr Steinbecks epic.
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