Doll  +  542465 Wed, 16 Jul 08 04:58 PM Hello everyone,   I came across with this sentence while I was reading a text but I couldn't fully understand the function of "as in te sentence". Here is the sentence:   Macho society under scrutiny as despair drives young men to 'honourable death'. This is a title but you can find the whole text on The Time's website.   Does "as" mean "because" here?   Thanks in advance. Doll Joined on Sat, Mar 10 2007 Senior Member 2,811

	Skrej  +  542495 Wed, 16 Jul 08 06:37 PM Doll “ Hello everyone,   I came across with this sentence while I was reading a text but I couldn't fully understand the function of "as in te sentence". Here is the sentence:   Macho society under scrutiny as despair drives young men to 'honourable death'. This is a title but you can find the whole text on The Time's website.   Does "as" mean "because" here?   Thanks in advance. ” Not exactly, but kind of.  Here, 'as' means more like  'while' or 'as the same time/during the period which'.   Maybe close to the word 'since'. Headlines (due to space issues) are often so truncated they're difficult to read, and often aren't complete, grammatical sentences. Perhaps if I wrote out the headline as a sentence, including some of the missing, (but presumed to be understood/inferred by the reader) content, it will make more sense. "Macho society is now under scrutiny since despair is driving young men to commit suicide as a means of an 'honorable death'. " Skrej Joined on Sat, Jul 5 2008 Not-quite-dead-center U.S. Junior Member 60 The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second mouse who gets the cheese.

	Doll  +  542498 Wed, 16 Jul 08 06:41 PM Wow, thanks Skrej! I understand it now. Doll

	CalifJim  +  542501 Wed, 16 Jul 08 06:47 PM Doll “Does "as" mean "because" here?  ” No.  It means "at the same time as". is was omitted in the headline.  Read it as:  is under scrutiny.  CJ  CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,405 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche

	Marius Hancu  +  542502 Wed, 16 Jul 08 06:47 PM Indeed, difficult to tell which of the following: -- as  5 : during or at the same time that : WHILE, WHEN <promptly opened fire again as he turned away -- C.S.Forester> <as he paced back and forth the idea occurred to him> <you will see the tower as you cross the bridge>  8 : for the reason that : BECAUSE, SINCE <remained in great loneliness and considerable privation as he had no income -- W.L.Sullivan>  http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com -------  Marius Hancu Joined on Wed, Apr 26 2006 Veteran Member 11,673

	Mr Wordy  +  542512 Wed, 16 Jul 08 07:00 PM This is journalese ("as" is a nice short word for headlines). Here it indicates that the two things are going on at the same time (or roughly the same time), in much the same way as "I nearly ran over a cat as I was driving to work". The This journalistic use of "as" also implies cause-and-effect without actually saying so. This can be misused (though your quote isn't a particularly bad example). It's handy for journalists as it allows them to associate two things in the reader's mind without the bother of actually demonstrating that there is any link between the two. Mr Wordy Joined on Tue, May 27 2008 Senior Member 2,359 Native British English speaker

	Doll  +  542515 Wed, 16 Jul 08 07:06 PM Thank you Mr Wordy, Marius and CJ! I hug you all.   Doll

	Skrej  +  542528 Wed, 16 Jul 08 07:30 PM Indeed, this drive for conciseness often causes some confusion, and leads to unintentionally funny headlines, bylines, and adverts.  A couple of U.S. late night talk show programs regularly feature some of the latest examples.  I know Leno does, and I believe Letterman has them from time to time. Some examples. http://www.witty-quotes.com/headlines_1.html http://www.innocentenglish.com/funny-bloopers-mistakes-quotes/funny-newspaper-headlines.html http://www.plainlanguage.gov/examples/humor/headlines.cfm http://www.antion.com/humor/speakerhumor/headlines.htm http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/jbistlin/headlines1.htm  (This one has actual pictures) Skrej

	Doll  +  542530 Wed, 16 Jul 08 07:33 PM They really are! Doll