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Rotter  #523422  Thu, 05 Jun 08 04:54 PM
1.Several thousand people were killed by the earthquake in China.

 

2.Several thousand people had been killed by the earthquake in China. 

 

I know the first sentence is fine. It is a passive sentence.

It is not correct to say 'has been killed' because the quake took place almost 2 weeks ago. The present perfect is not suitable for a past incident

Is the second sentence fine? 

  
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Marius Hancu  #523434  Thu, 05 Jun 08 05:31 PM
 2 is waiting for another event in simple past, such as:

 2.Several thousand people had been killed by the earthquake in China, before help arrived in the  affected regions.  

 

  
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tamguatlay  #523438  Thu, 05 Jun 08 05:37 PM

I think the first sentence is correct. Your sentence below doesn't mention what took place before the loss of lives.

Several thousand people had been killed by the earthquake in China. 

I think this sentence is better: After the earthquake had struck China, several thousand  people were killed.

 

  
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Rotter  #523441  Thu, 05 Jun 08 05:41 PM
.Several thousand people had been killed by the earthquake in China, before help arrived in the  affected regions.  


 Marius, the above is a past perfect sentence. There are 2 clear events and you are pushing one before the other.

My second sentence borders past perfect and I thought you would approve it. 

  
Marius Hancu  #523447  Thu, 05 Jun 08 05:51 PM
Of course the first sentence is correct, but my point was to the incomplete 2nd sentence.

Why do you CUT my sentence? This is NOT my sentence:

Several thousand people had been killed by the earthquake in China.

Also, your latest sentence should be:  

When the earthquake struck China, several thousand  people were killed.

It's very difficult to separate the timing of the earthquake from the timing of the killing, thus I think it's best to keep simple past in both.   

Your original 2nd sentence is not complete. I told you:

 2 is waiting/needs another event in simple past

This is not how one should use the past perfect. 

And I am out of here. You do what you want.  You seem to know better, why ask? 

  
Rotter  #523456  Thu, 05 Jun 08 06:09 PM
 Marius wrote the following.

And I am out of here. You do what you want.  You seem to know better, why ask?

I don't know what Marius means here. I don't know these things. That is why I posted here. 

  
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