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Latest post Mon, Aug 29 2005 10:46 AM by Mack&Mack. 2 replies.
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Mack&Mack  +  131684 Mon, 29 Aug 05 06:24 AM

Dear teachers!

I was taught that "the same" should go together with "as". And yet the other day I heard someone say "the same blah blah that blah blah." I'd like to know the difference between them. I'm putting down two sentences below.

1. I have the same watch as you have.

2. I have the same watch that you have.

 

Could you let me know any difference?

 

Lots of thanks to you teachers.....
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Mister Micawber  +  131704 Mon, 29 Aug 05 07:06 AM

Hi M&M--

That can also be used when a clause follows:

She is the same girl that/who dumped me for the trapeze artist.  As a matter of  fact, as would sound a bit odd to me here; that may be only a personal reaction, though.

You can even omit it:

She's the same girl I used to date.

They all mean the same, of course.
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Mack&Mack  +  131742 Mon, 29 Aug 05 10:46 AM

Hello Mr Micawber,

What a small Englishforums!

You've helped me again. Thanks hehe.

Oh. Quick question.

I should say " the same watch as yours", shouldn't I? I mean, when the part after "the same something" is [a/the/or zero](I am not sure) noun, right?

 

Sorry, but one more.(I'm back and I'm updateing on)

1a. I have the same watch that you have lost.

1b. I have the same watch as you have lost.

 

2a. I have the same watch that you have.

2b. I have the same watch as you have.

One of my friends says that for number 1, a is right and for #2, b is right. Is it so?

 
Mack&Mack
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