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Anonymous, 1 yr 44 days ago
(F) RoseHi Goodman
Why do consider Iran is  a bully and why you do not think the US is a bully whereas both of them have the same Weapon .In other words , Iran is an independent country so can decide  whatever she wants without being uder the American custody . in my point of view Iran is a muslim country so no threat will on the world . the question is why America is afraid from anyone holds the nuclear reactor ?
please do not say for the sake of the world it is really cheaty answer.
Goodman  +  575775 Sun, 12 Oct 08 10:07 PM

Anon,

This is a discussion far too complicated to be settled here. Agreed or not, Middle East has been a troubled region of the world since the beginning of time. Religious facism has caused many wars and international conflicts, especially between the Muslim and Christian countries as a result. United States’ role in helping Israel has made several Islamic countries rather angry and therefore viewed the US as an enemy over the past decades. Of course, some people pick and choose what they want to believe and refuse to acknowledge the facts. The current president of Iran was proven to be an Islamic radical in late the 70’s during which  52 Americans were  held hostage for ‘444’ days!

Over the following 30 years, Iraq and Iran had been friends and foes with the US more than once. So a mind game of international politics had begun. In 2005, with Saddam being gone, The other mad man has been making his move flexing his muscle to intimate other neighboring counties and perhaps showing his ambition to take over the region. His Nuclear Plan is a statement to the rest of the world he has the tool to cause large-scale destruction and he is not afraid to use it. He was challenging to the US and the rest of the civilized world with is nuclear weapons. This is a fact and there was news footage to prove it. Unless one chooses to fool the world by distorting it. Now who is cheating the world?

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Avangi  +  576161 Tue, 14 Oct 08 07:20 AM
Osee
“BTW, Avangi, by CEOs, you actually mean the presidents, right? ”
Hi, Osee.  I was thinking of the leaders of the big financial corporations, who made themselves rich by subverting the interests of the people they were supposed to "protect."  Sometimes the title is "President and CEO (Chief Executive Officer)."  In some organizations, they are separate people.  Sometimes the chairman of the board of directors holds the power.  I don't really know that much about the titles in different types of companies. 
The same is true of countries.  In some countries the "president" is the chief executive, while in other countries the "president" has no power, and the "prime minister" is the chief executive.  When countries set up their constitutions, they determine who will have the power and what he will be called. 
Osee
“I believe a majority of Americans do not want to see Iraq war. Since the USA government claims the country is built on democracy, I do not understand why the majority's opinion failed to be obayed. ”
If you think about it, you may notice that simple majority rule can sometimes be dangerous.  What we hope for instead is a truly representative government.  The voice of the people resides in a body of lawmakers, who (if we're lucky) are smart people of "good" character, who have the interests of the people they represent at heart.  They think and fight and argue and negotiate over the issues, making laws which protect the rights and interests of as many people as possible.

In the state of California, we have a "crazy" law which allows any citizen to to make up a law.  If he gets enough people to sign a petition supporting his law, then it's placed on the ballot in the next general election, and all of the citizens get to vote on it.  If it passes, it becomes law.  That's what I'd call simple majority rule.  The Governor does not have veto power over such laws, nor can the legislature revoke them.

If somebody didn't like (let's say) red-headed people, he could write a law saying that all red-headed people will be put in jail, and their property will be auctioned off and the money divided up among all the citizens.  It's theoretically possible that such a law could be supported and passed by a majority of the voters.

But then, thank God, some group like the ACLU would file a case in court, claiming that this law is "unconstitutional," or in conflict with other existing law.  The court is then obliged to settle the issue on the basis of existing law.  Their decision may then be appealed, etc. etc.

Presidents often appoint Attorneys General and Supreme Court Justices who agree with their flaky ideas, so the courts will support the president in a battle.

Re the war, the Congress has given the executive branch (the president) some extraordinary "discretionary" powers to act as he sees fit when he thinks national security is involved.

  - A.
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muslimflower  +  576331 Tue, 14 Oct 08 05:51 PM
(F) RoseHello Goodman
I'd like to ask only one question which is what are you resources that make you sure of every single you word have written
?i will tell you why I am asking this question later, God willing.
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Goodman  +  576335 Tue, 14 Oct 08 06:03 PM

<<<In the state of California, we have a "crazy" law which allows any citizen to to make up a law.  If he gets enough people to sign a petition supporting his law, then it's placed on the ballot in the next general election, and all of the citizens get to vote on it.  If it passes, it becomes law.  That's what I'd call simple majority rule.


If somebody didn't like (let's say) red-headed people, he could write a law saying that all red-headed people will be put in jail, and their property will be auctioned off and the money divided up among all the citizens.  It's theoretically possible that such a law could be supported and passed by a majority of the voters.>>>

This process is called ballet initiative. The posted message was either misunderstood or distorted. We have one controversy going one right now which is Prop 8.. This is an initiative to revoke the “same-sex” marriage law the renegade San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsome passed against the will of the people in S.F. few years ago. Prop 8 is a result of the effort from the angry citizens, people with traditional family values and religious group to revoke this law. I’ve lived in Calif over 25 years. I have never seen people trying to abuse this power to purposely discriminate. Mind you, we can always rearrange the facts to convince people to see it our way. ACLU is the epitome of the very best in that regard.  

The fact is ACLU has been doing more harm than good for the majority of Americans who happen to disagree with the ACLU agendas. http://www.squidoo.com/ACLU_agenda

In S.F.elementary students are now exposed to gay subjects matters as regular curriculum and taken to City Hall to witness gay couple getting marriedwithout the concent of the parents. This is why Prop 8 is on the ballet!


http://thecitytroll.blogspot.com/2007/03/aclu-pedophile-predator-caught.html
The ACLU's real agenda

The ACLU is a misnomer. It is not the American Civil Liberties Union as they claim. It is anti Religion, anti Traditional values, anti Democracy, anti childern and pro Secular Progressive agenda, pro abortion, pro gay, pro drugs pro world order. They are not defined by what they claim to represent but by what they choose to defend. Action speaks louder than words.

But then, thank God, some group like the ACLU would file a case in court, claiming that this law is "unconstitutional," or in conflict with other existing law.  The court is then obliged to settle the issue on the basis of existing law.  Their decision may then be appealed, etc. etc.

Wants want proof? This one really boils my blood!

 

ACLU Pedophile Predator Caught

As for the MSM yes they do love certain stories don't they especially if they are about violence or sex.

That's why I find it interesting how they are ignoring the story about a prominant Virginia political figure who got caught buying with his credit card images of prepubecent girls being tied to a chair and raped, he had tons of kiddie porn images on his computer and This guy was the major force in NOT allowing any type of porn filters to be put on public library computers in Virginia.

How did they miss such an opportunity to nail a politician for such hypocracy?

Simple

He is Russ Tierney former head of the Virginia ACLU and was arrested Feb 23

51 year old Charles Russ Tierney, an attorney and former head of the ACLU in Virginia was arrested and charged in federal court with possessing child pornography. Agents found videos in his home of little girls being violently raped by adults.

Goodman  +  576357 Tue, 14 Oct 08 07:19 PM
These are historic reports and events we all can revisit if we know how to search for them. I didn't make them up.  Of coruse, people can choose what they believe. Perhaps the God you believe in has a diffierent plan than mine. So it would make our beliefves incomatiable in a discussion.
Goodman  +  576359 Tue, 14 Oct 08 07:24 PM
By the way, if this is truly a  forum for "controversial subject", it's funny how my other post regarding the ACLU was held unpublished?  
Avangi  +  576528 Wed, 15 Oct 08 08:16 AM
Hi Goodman,
I'll admit the ACLU doesn't always get it right, but neither do our elected representatives.  The ACLU's mission is not to make laws, but to bring cases to court when the constitutional rights of certain people are abused.  These people may be despicable, but in most cases they simply don't have the wherewithal to defend themselves.  As in all court matters, the final decision rests with the Supreme Court, which is starting to lean your way.  John McCain, whom I've always admired, has promised to pack the court even more heavily in your direction.  (That's the only reason I can't vote for him.)
George Herbert Walker Bush (whom I also admired) was a card-carrying member of the ACLU.   I once contributed to the ACLU, but only once, because my mailbox became flooded with solicitations from gay organizations.
Goodman  +  576657 Wed, 15 Oct 08 04:22 PM
Hi Avangi,

 I am the kind of people who deal with people on the individual basis, regardless of his origin and color. I look for characters and patterns in one’s behavior to determine if his is trustworthy. In my earlier days in the US, I worked with many gay people and I was fine with them, as long as they understood where I drew the line. I was extremely uncomfortable sharing the same locker room with them because of their way of ‘sizing” up another male. I was working in Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco at the time and believe me, at least 25% of the staff are gay (men and women included). I had no problem with them once I got to know them, as long as they didn't try to change my value by imposing theirs on me. Having said that, an organization like ACLU has demonstrated its true characters in many social controversies. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=aclu+controversie

To me, the an organization can only be as trustworthy as the people who run it. ACLU may have an honest intention to fight for the people in the beginning. However, over the years, the organization has taken over by liberalism driven by people with socialist and liberal visions. What was posted was true to my mind. ACLU is anti-social in everyway. Its position on NAMBLA, among other controversies is clear. I am speaking of facts, not fabrications. We need to really open our eyes and look around who is on our side. As far as GWB is concerned, I supported him, AND- I regretted it!

Thank you for your reply!
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