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Old Man Gordon  #531527  Mon, 23 Jun 08 05:42 PM

In a recent post on one of these forums, there was some sidebar discussion about the usage of dear.  Someone mentioned that they found the usage off-putting.  I'm not sure I agree...the only time people call me dear seems to be waitresses, and then I feel young and somehow complimented.

Regarding "Sir", as an AmE speaker, I often find that form of address irritating.  Even in initial contact, it puts a distance between people that doesn't exist before that.  When reading it in forums here, it seems overly formal.  In any letter addressed to Sir/madam, I can assume that the person doesn't know me, and hasn't even spent the time to research my gender.  In a retail/restaurant setting the address seems perfectly fine.

Is there a way to convey the correct respect to someone without using that form of address?

What do other English speakers feel? 

  
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Grammar Geek  #531529  Mon, 23 Jun 08 05:46 PM

Gordon, as a naval officer, I was caleld "ma'am" from the time I was 22 years old. A bit younger, actually. So I never had the weirdness of being called something formal - it's just how I was addressed.

The only thing I really truly hate is "Dude" - not just because I'm female but because I find it intensely disrespectful and overly familiar.

I don't like "Dear" in the chat room because of the "pick up" connotations over being too familiar.

 

  
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eslkorea  #531532  Mon, 23 Jun 08 05:52 PM
sir and maam is a bit formal..but it depends on the situation..and yes..the culture..
  
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CalifJim  #531719  Tue, 24 Jun 08 05:45 AM
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What do other English speakers feel? 
From people I don't know, I don't like to be called sir, dear, dude, or buddy.  Or hey!  And probably a few others that aren't coming to mind just now. Smile

CJ 

  
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