Anonymous  +  610541 Sat, 13 Dec 08 04:57 AM Can someone brief me on the usage of that especially in the context of relative clause. sometimes i m rather confused by sentence as such 1. I did not know they had informed you. (Should there be a "that" after know?) 2. She told me she had given birth a baby boy. (Should there be a "that" after me?) thank you. Anonymous Clauses, Writing, Sentences, Context, Usages

	Avangi  +  610552 Sat, 13 Dec 08 05:47 AM Those are the easy ones. "That" is understood.  It's sort of an ugly word, so as long as the meaning of the sentence is clear without it, we omit it. Avangi Joined on Mon, Nov 19 2007 Veteran Member 8,182 ". . . le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile." - Henri de Regnier Sentences

	Cool Breeze  +  610597 Sat, 13 Dec 08 12:44 PM Anonymous “Can someone brief me on the usage of that especially in the context of relative clause. 1. I did not know they had informed you. (Should there be a "that" after know?) 2. She told me she had given birth to a baby boy. (Should there be a "that" after me?) ” As Avangi has told you, that isn't needed in your sentences. I would just like to mention that there are no relative clauses in your sentences. That is a conjunction in them and can be omitted because the that-clauses are objects. To is needed in the second sentence. CB Cool Breeze Joined on Fri, Apr 7 2006 Senior Member 3,978 "I hope you'll all live to be 150 years old - and the last voice you hear is mine!" Frank Sinatra on stage in Oslo, Norway, 28 September 1991 Clauses, Writing, Sentences, Context, Usages

	Avangi  +  610680 Sat, 13 Dec 08 07:37 PM Thanks, CB.  Anonymous “  the usage of that especially in the context of relative clause. ”   The sweater [that] you bought me is way too tight. (can be omitted) I hope I'm right about the following: "That" is a conjunction.  The relative clause is "you bought [for] me." The car that carries the president will have a flag attached to the front fender. (cannot be omitted)  The relative pronoun "that" is actually the subject of the relative clause, "that carries the president."  (I wanted to say "banner" instead of "flag," but I'm not sure what they call those things.) I'm not too swift at this!   (I guess [that] after you omit the "that," you no longer have a "that-clause.") Avangi Clauses, Pronouns, Relative Pronouns, Writing, Context, Usages