Angliholic  +  446509 Mon, 26 Nov 07 04:08 PM Luckily, the window to/of the kitchen wass unlucked, so she could get into the house through the windows. My question: Do both to and of work with the above wording? If yes, do they mean pretty much the same? Thanks. Angliholic Joined on Wed, Feb 14 2007 SomewhereinFormosa Veteran Member 6,474 Without true love, life is meaningless and worthless since our physical world is nothing but a dream. ~~Angliholic~~簡瑞達

	Grammar Geek  +  446522 Mon, 26 Nov 07 04:31 PM "the window of the kitchen" sounds awkward. "The kitchen window" is far more natural. The window TO the kitchen is acceptable, but "the kitchen window" is still better. Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Veteran Member 19,667 Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random!

	Angliholic  +  446525 Mon, 26 Nov 07 04:35 PM  Grammar Geek wrote: "the window of the kitchen" sounds awkward. "The kitchen window" is far more natural. The window TO the kitchen is acceptable, but "the kitchen window" is still better. Thanks, GG. To make sure, are the kitchen window and the window to the kitchen referring to the same thing? Angliholic Grammar

	Grammar Geek  +  446526 Mon, 26 Nov 07 04:36 PM I would think they are, yes. Grammar Geek

	Angliholic  +  446529 Mon, 26 Nov 07 04:41 PM Thanks, GG. By the way, I ran across your lovely photo earlier on the photo forum. You look so nice! Angliholic

	khoff  +  446573 Mon, 26 Nov 07 06:31 PM I would only say "the window to the kitchen" if the point of view was from someone outside the house -- as in your example, where someone was trying to find a way to get inside.  In most circumstances you would say "the kitchen window." khoff Joined on Sun, Mar 6 2005 Senior Member 3,271 Native speaker of American English (but not a grammar expert)

	Angliholic  +  446691 Mon, 26 Nov 07 11:17 PM  Khoff wrote: I would only say "the window to the kitchen" if the point of view was from someone outside the house -- as in your example, where someone was trying to find a way to get inside.  In most circumstances you would say "the kitchen window." Well put! Thanks, Khoff. Got it. Angliholic

	khoff  +  446779 Tue, 27 Nov 07 03:29 AM Glad to help. khoff

	New2grammar  +  446854 Tue, 27 Nov 07 11:03 AM I have a similar question. Is it natural to use 'in' in this case? For example, I opened one of the windows in the room to let some of the air dissipate the smell of paint. The window in the kitchen is a bit rusty. You may need to use some force. Thanks. New2grammar Joined on Tue, Nov 21 2006 Veteran Member 7,676 Who wants to go sailing around the world with me?