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Espeland  #540516  Sat, 12 Jul 08 07:17 PM
Hello !

There's a question in my mind since ages: Why do you pronounce "Greenwhich" not like "green witch" but like "grannich" ? In other words: why is the w silent and the wide -ee- turned into a "closed" e ?
  
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Mr Wordy  #540550  Sat, 12 Jul 08 11:10 PM

It's spelled "Greenwich" (well, the ones I know are anyway).

I'm from England, and I pronounce it "Gren-itch", with the first "e" pronounced as in "met". Some people in England say "Grin-itch", the "i" as in "bit". I suppose I can just about visualise someone with a rural British accent saying "Gran-itch". I'm not qualified to advise on US or other pronunciations.

As for why ... I don't really know, but it's easier to say it with a short first vowel, so may have been corrupted for that reason.

 

  
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CalifJim  #541014  Mon, 14 Jul 08 02:42 AM
Espeland
Why do you pronounce "Greenwhich" not like "green witch" but like "grannich" ? In other words: why is the w silent and the wide -ee- turned into a "closed" e ?
I'm sure you realize that this is not an isolated example.  Many, many words in English are likewise not pronounced the way it seems they should be pronounced from the spelling.  The pronunciation changes over hundreds of years, but the spelling remains the same, so many words which sounded just as they were spelled centuries ago now sound different from their spellings.  (English is not the only language whose spelling never bothered to keep up with changes in pronunciation throughout history.  French is another good example.)

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Espeland  #543062  Fri, 18 Jul 08 02:20 PM

CalifJim
I'm sure you realize that this is not an isolated example.


But the fact that the "w" is not pronounced. I cannot think of any other English word with a "w" which is not pronounced...why is Greenwhich an exception ?
  
Mr Wordy  #543177  Fri, 18 Jul 08 06:34 PM

The word is usually spelled "Greenwich", not "Greenwhich". Unless you are thinking of a particular example that you are sure is conventionally spelled "Greenwhich", you should stick with the usual spelling.

There are a number of English place names like this: "Harwich", "Woolwich", "Berwick" and "Warwick" are examples. There are also surnames such as "Beswick" (variously pronounced with or without "w") and "Fenwick" (these, as it happens, are also place names). Offhand I can't think of any examples that aren't proper names (apart from words like "who", "***", "wring", "wrap" etc., but I assume you're not talking about those). That doesn't mean there aren't any, of course.

Edit: Huh? System has asterisked out "w h o r e".

  
nona the brit  #543445  Sat, 19 Jul 08 09:14 AM
Uk place names often have 'odd' pronounciation.

Here's a good link for you: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A16352381 

on place names (including wich ones).

  
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Mr Wordy  #543479  Sat, 19 Jul 08 11:35 AM

Mr Wordy
Offhand I can't think of any examples that aren't proper names (apart from words like "who", "***", "wring", "wrap" etc., but I assume you're not talking about those). That doesn't mean there aren't any, of course.

"Answer".

Duh.

  
CalifJim  #543586  Sat, 19 Jul 08 05:11 PM
 And "sword"!

CJ 

  
Mr Wordy  #543610  Sat, 19 Jul 08 06:44 PM

CalifJim
And "sword"!

Duh.

  
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