Behnazzz  +  292046 Sun, 12 Nov 06 06:28 AM So the people here in the garden aren't necessarily all speaking the same language or sharing the same culture, but they all have a love of gardening which universally the world over, diehard gardeners all have something in common and it's a really great social glue that binds people here together. Hi What is the meaning of "which universally the world over" in this part? Thanks Behnazzz Joined on Wed, Aug 3 2005 Full Member 225

	Yankee  +  292073 Sun, 12 Nov 06 09:10 AM The whole sentence is badly written, and that phrase is particularly bad, Behnazzz.  It seems that the writer simply wanted to say that 'gardeners all over the world have something in common'. Yankee Joined on Sat, Apr 15 2006 Connecticut, USA Veteran Member 6,500 Amy "You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." - Mark Twain

	Grammar Geek  +  292217 Sun, 12 Nov 06 04:29 PM The phrase "the world over" is used to show how universal something is. To combine it with "universally" makes it redundant. I'd write it "But there is a love of gardening the word over, and gardening can be a social glue that binds people together." Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Veteran Member 19,669 Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random!

	Behnazzz  +  292697 Mon, 13 Nov 06 10:32 PM Hi , Thanks But finally i didn't underestand  the world over refers to the love of gardening or the  diehard gardeners? Which one is correct? Onething that is strange to me is the used  word "which"? shouldnt it  have been which is universally(the world over)?Maby  here "which" has another meaning? Maybe the world over is used as an adj like diehard to relate it to gardeners? Please ,explain to me Thanks again. Behnazzz

	Marius Hancu  +  292702 Mon, 13 Nov 06 11:09 PM the world over=everywhere, or all over the world all gardeners (from everywhere or from all over the world) have a common love all gardeners have a love THAT'S IT Marius Hancu

	Philip  +  292733 Tue, 14 Nov 06 02:57 AM  Grammar Geek wrote: The phrase "the world over" is used to show how universal something is. To combine it with "universally" makes it redundant. Not to mention superfluous, repetitive and not really needed. Philip Joined on Thu, Jun 23 2005 Veteran Member 8,738 At reise er at leve! - H. C. Andersen Grammar

	Grammar Geek  +  292742 Tue, 14 Nov 06 03:37 AM LOL. Thanks Philip. The problem with the original sentence is that it's really poorly written. So you'll only make yourself crazy if you try to figure it all out. It just means that a love for gardening is global and can unite people. Don't try to figure out the rest - it's a bad example to try to learn from. Grammar Geek