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Behnazzz  #292046  Sun, 12 Nov 06 06:28 AM

So the people here in the garden aren't necessarily all speaking the same language or sharing the same culture, but they all have a love of gardening which universally the world over, diehard gardeners all have something in common and it's a really great social glue that binds people here together.

Hi

What is the meaning of "which universally the world over" in this part?

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Yankee  #292073  Sun, 12 Nov 06 09:10 AM
The whole sentence is badly written, and that phrase is particularly bad, Behnazzz.  It seems that the writer simply wanted to say that 'gardeners all over the world have something in common'.
  
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Marius Hancu  #292189  Sun, 12 Nov 06 03:01 PM
Bad writing indeed.
  
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Grammar Geek  #292217  Sun, 12 Nov 06 04:29 PM

The phrase "the world over" is used to show how universal something is. To combine it with "universally" makes it redundant.

I'd write it "But there is a love of gardening the word over, and gardening can be a social glue that binds people together."

  
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Behnazzz  #292697  Mon, 13 Nov 06 10:32 PM

Hi ,

Thanks

But finally i didn't underestand  the world over refers to the love of gardening or the  diehard gardeners?

Which one is correct?

Onething that is strange to me is the used  word "which"? shouldnt it  have been which is universally(the world over)?Maby  here "which" has another meaning?

Maybe the world over is used as an adj like diehard to relate it to gardeners?

Please ,explain to me

Thanks again.

  
Marius Hancu  #292702  Mon, 13 Nov 06 11:09 PM
the world over=everywhere, or all over the world

all gardeners (from everywhere or from all over the world) have a common love

all gardeners have a love

THAT'S IT
  
Philip  #292733  Tue, 14 Nov 06 02:57 AM
 Grammar Geek wrote:

The phrase "the world over" is used to show how universal something is. To combine it with "universally" makes it redundant.

Not to mention superfluous, repetitive and not really needed.
  
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Grammar Geek  #292742  Tue, 14 Nov 06 03:37 AM

LOL. Thanks Philip.

The problem with the original sentence is that it's really poorly written. So you'll only make yourself crazy if you try to figure it all out.

It just means that a love for gardening is global and can unite people. Don't try to figure out the rest - it's a bad example to try to learn from.

  
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