Are these two the same: bleed IN or INTO sth

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Parochial Orphan  #307174  Mon, 25 Dec 06 04:52 PM

If a blood vessel in the brain is ruptured, you can say "S/he's bleeding in her/his brain."
In this example, the preposition "in" is used, but you can also say "S/he's bleeding into her/his brain.", am I right?
The question is if these two expressions have exactly the same meaning.

I thought "into" suggests a sort of a movement like "from outside to inside, inward", and "in" implies "a state of being inside of something" in addition to "inward".
So I figured there may be some differences.

  
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Marius Hancu  #307178  Mon, 25 Dec 06 05:03 PM
I'd say you can't. Into shows direction, as you've already observed.

"S/he's bleeding into her/his brain."

doesn't quite make sense.
  
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CalifJim  #307210  Mon, 25 Dec 06 08:24 PM
bleeding in the brain is telling us where the bleeding activity is taking place.
bleeding into the brain is telling us where the blood is going.

I seem to recall that there is a "blood-brain" barrier that must not be crossed.  If the blood is not confined to its vessels in the brain and "bleeds into the brain", horrible consequences can occur.  (I'm not a doctor, so verify with an authority on the subject!)

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Parochial Orphan  #307376  Tue, 26 Dec 06 12:13 PM

 Marius Hancu wrote:
I'd say you can't. Into shows direction, as you've already observed.

"S/he's bleeding into her/his brain."

doesn't quite make sense.

Well, I've heard both expressions using IN and INTO, so ...
Thanks, anyway.

  
Parochial Orphan  #307383  Tue, 26 Dec 06 12:45 PM

 CalifJim wrote:
bleeding in the brain is telling us where the bleeding activity is taking place.
bleeding into the brain is telling us where the blood is going.

I seem to recall that there is a "blood-brain" barrier that must not be crossed.  If the blood is not confined to its vessels in the brain and "bleeds into the brain", horrible consequences can occur.  (I'm not a doctor, so verify with an authority on the subject!)

CJ

Right. So, if you say someone is bleeding into, for example, the chest,
the bleeding is not necessarily occuring in the chest. It could be somewhere else.

Thank you!

  

  
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