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Summer3  #342749  Sat, 24 Mar 07 06:58 AM
I use "they" for people, animals, emotional expressions (e.g. tears) and inanimate things. One day someone (non-native like me) told me that the use of "they" is limited to people only. For animals, emotional expressions and inanimate things we use "these/those" but not "they".

I know he is incorrect. I checked the dictionary and found that his statement was wrong. However, I would like to reconfirm it from native speakers here. Please help me.

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nona the brit  #342757  Sat, 24 Mar 07 07:09 AM

You are correct. These and those are very specific and also include a statement on position. These = the specific ones here. Those= the specific ones there.

'They' is perfectly acceptable for inanimate objects, animals etc. It is the plural of 'it' with no 'position/place' or necessarily a specific element to what you are saying.

For example. Meercats are animals. They live in large family groups.

We can't say 'these' live in family groups as we are talking about all the meercats in the world, not just a group that is near us. Likewise, 'those' would be pointing out a specific group some distance from us. Both options suggest that this is not necessarily normal behaviour for meercats, and that other meercats may not be living in family groups, which is incorrect.

I don't know where your friend got that idea from but it must make their English-speaking very difficult! How does he/she cope with situations such as 'I want to return these shoes as they don't fit me' or 'I want to order some dining chairs please and they must match my oak table'. You can't substitute 'those' or 'these' for either of those 'they's.

  
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Summer3  #342784  Sat, 24 Mar 07 08:12 AM
Wow, nona the brit! very clear explanation!!!Big Smile [:D]

You made my doubts clear even about the usage of "these" or "those" with your excellent examples!

Many many thanks to you!


  
Philip  #342897  Sat, 24 Mar 07 04:00 PM
 Summer3 wrote:
Wow, nona the brit! very clear explanation!!![:D]

You made my doubts clear even about the usage of "these" or "those" with your excellent examples!

Many many thanks to you!


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Summer3  #343536  Mon, 26 Mar 07 06:34 AM
You never get less from Nona!

True! Big Smile [:D]
  
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