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Dear Stannum,
Why did you delete your post? There was no need, I read it. I know you find my questions stupid. Perhaps they are. But I don't post them here for fun. I don't get Dollars for posting them. As far as that hysteron proteron is concerned, I don't even know its meaning. I don't have any wrong intentions or motives. I am just here to learn. I love all these people including you who help me in everything. I do wish them all the best. They are just like family to me. We are friends here. G_d bless you all. I know you don't need G_d's blessings, therefore you can ignore them. I'm again sorry for offending you. Hope I get my second chance.
Best Wishes, Jackson
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Dear Jackson,
Thank you for understanding me and thank you for responding to clear the air.
I did not delete my post.
This was deleted by a very well meaning moderator who just didn't understand waht was going on. I am sorry that it was deleted but I do understand why it was done. There is no real harm from the deletion and I am quite content. I have been yelled at in private by well meaning moderators in the past and it will probably happen again.
I am an artist and a writer and sometimes some people don't get me. I can't be cross when this happens. If I want to be totally understood all the time I can write like a photocopying machine and use words and ideas that someone eles wrote before but that is not me and it is no fun and I am fascinated to meet real people like you on the internet. It is really hard to know who is real and who is creepy. You are real and you are not creepy and I am honoured to meet you and so is my daughter.
I now understand that you were just making a joke.
I am sorry that I was offended but I was genuinely offended. I am no longer offended and I am no longer suspicious of you.
Thank you for understanding that I was in no way attacking you.
Thank you for understanding that I was not flaming you.
Thank you for caring enough about my feelings to go to the trouble and effort of explaining yourself so honestly and openly in a language that is not your native language.
I can see far more honesty in your slightly garbled words than in the most erudite rationalisation possible.
You are fair dinkum and I am sorry that I hurt your feelings a little bit but I know that I didn't hurt you much because you always knew that you were fair dinkum so I was basically yelling at you because of a mistimed joke on your part. I imagine that you were more confused than insulted by my response to your joke.
In any event I have no desire to insult a proper person as you have revealed yourself to be.
May this day bring you something that you forgot to hope for,
Peace be with you.
Robert
P.S. If you feel the need to clear the air any further or if you would like my daughter or myself to assist you with your Chemistry we are both at your service and you may write to me at my home e-mail address. You have that address already.
P.P.S. The Collins dictionary,
hysteron proteron n 1 Logic, a fallacious argument in which the proposition to be proved is assumed as a premise. 2 Rhetoric, a figure of speech in which the normal order of two sentences, clauses, etcetera is reversed: bred and born (for born and bred) . [C16: from Late Latin, from Greek husteron proteron the latter (placed as) former]
Idiomatically this means
1 An embedded question.
2 to put the cart before the horse.
May your road rise up to meet you, mate.
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Dear Stannum,
I'm more than happy to know that you have no problem with me anymore. Thank you very much for giving me a second chance. I swear I didn't choose that nick intentionally. Perhaps I was trying to be little funny, but now I know I was terrible. As you know English is not my native language and my words don't exactly represent my ideas and intentions as I want them to. Everything I know about English, I owe it to Englishforums. I don't like people such as the one who I chose in my nick. If you ask me, I don't even consider them humans. The following is an excerpt from my post which I wrote months ago:
''Martin Luther did many services to Christianity. He also wrote extensively againt Jews. If you ask me, I don't think he was a true Christian. If you ask me, I don't think he was a good human being. Adolf Hitler used M. Luther's writings to support his agenda to kill Jews. Did Christianity teach Hitler to kill Jews? Did Jesus somewhere in Bible ask him to kill Jews? Then, who are these people to do such things? They only do such things for fortune and glory.''
You didn't offend me or hurt me. You are my father's age, therefore I took your words as advice, and tried to find good side of them if I didn't like any of them. I'm grateful to you for forgiving me. I once again promise, I will never do such an act through my entire life. The best thing I liked about you is that you speak your mind and that's very good thing. When anyone speaks his mind, only then problems can be solved. Please also say sorry to your daughter on my behalf I offended her too. If you go back to my posts which I wrote in the start when I joined this Englishforums, you would find ''Vijay'' as my signature. My forum nick has nothing to do with that beast. I chose my forum nick as ''Jackson6612'' because I have my e-mail ID which is almost the same as my forum nick. I made that e-mail account years ago. I came to know about that beast few months ago, when I saw movie From Hell starring Johnny Depp. As far as name Jackson is concerned, I just chose it when I made that e-mail ID. There is no specific reason for choosing that name. I'm not a fan of Michael Jackson and I have never heard any of his songs. I personally don't like him because he made himself white by surgery. Such a cheap act, he made all other members of his race embarrassed by such an act. Why I chose number 6612 in my nick, there is an explanation for that too. But I couldn't be able to explain it here. When it came to my notice very first time, I changed my profile immediately. I was at fault. You shouldn't be sorry for anything. You corrected and I'm grateful for that. That day I e-mailed you because neither you nor me has the facility of Private Messaging. Therefore, there was no other way for discussing such an issue. There was no intention of disturbing you. You can check all my posts, I never make officious remarks to anyone. Members here are like family to me. Most of the time, I spend my time alone. People here are extremely nice. If you ask me, I would say all the Western people are very kind people. I'm not in some kind of inferiority complex that I like Western people much more than my own people. I have never been to USA but I know Grammar Geek, CalifJim, Yankee, Goodman, Philip, and many other Englishforums' members live there, therefore I take USA as a country of good people. I do not think about what people say about USA and Mr. George Bush. As far as my questions are concerned, they sometimes sound stupid to me too. But what else could I do when I have a problem except asking them here? Why would I ask them if I know the answers? I have here in my town nobody to help me. I use my uncle's computer, who lives not very far away from my home. These days he is on vacation with his family to some other town. I don't have my own computer. I have keys to my uncle's home and he has letted me to use his computer anytime. Therefore, I'm using this opportunity to the fullest. That's the reason why I keep on flooding the forums with my questions. But this won't happen for much longer because when my uncle comes back, I would only be able to use his computer occasionlly. I got no English books. In a way you could say all I have is internet. Sorry, if you find something officious in my writing, that was completely unintentional. I wish you and your daughter all the best. Peace be with you and your daughter throughout the entire life. Wishing you good health and many years of happiness.
Kind Regards and Best Wishes, Jackson