We have partnered with TradePub to bring you free industry magazines and resources - no coupons or credit cards required!

Visit: englishforums.tradepub.com


Share this topic:
This question is Not Answered
Latest post Fri, Oct 7 2005 9:43 AM by Anonymous. 4 replies.
Suggest an answer | | |
Anonymous  +  145126 Thu, 06 Oct 05 12:33 PM

Hi All.

Take a look at this if you will:

"And my tire flattened as I was riding it to work this morning. The leak was slow enough that I could limp to work by pumping it up along the way (not recommended procedure, but tolerable for very short distances.)"

http://www.mememachinego.com/archives/000817.html

......................

Do you, or have you ever, used the expression (my/the tire flattened)?

...

It expresses an inchoative (bridging or transitional ) event. It focuses on the transition between "tyre is not flat" to "tyre is flat". But would you, have you ever, or do you, use it?

Other examples:

I liked him within a minute.

The weather changed.

The car rolled down the hill.

My situation changed this morning.

Stevie is ripping his script up. (causative-inchoative)

nona the brit  +  145137 Thu, 06 Oct 05 01:16 PM
Yes ~I'd use them all (except I don't ride a bike so I probably wouldn't have much chance to use the first one!)
Joined on Wed, Sep 22 2004
England
Veteran Member 11,713
The name says it all.
rvw  +  145328 Fri, 07 Oct 05 01:53 AM
I think my tire flattened is a perfectly respectable usage, but I would more likely say my tire began loosing air.

Isn't Stevie is ripping his script up just the present progressive tense?
rvw
Joined on Sun, Nov 28 2004
Woodstock, Georgia, USA
Full Member 350
Anonymous, 4 yr 46 days ago

 Rvw wrote:
I think my tire flattened is a perfectly respectable usage, but I would more likely say my tire began loosing air.

Isn't Stevie is ripping his script up just the present progressive tense?

That's  losing air. ;-)

Yes, "Stevie is ripping his script up." is the present progressive, but it also denotes a change-of-state regarding the paper (from non-ripped to ripped and also names the causer of that change. Different  from other progressive sentences such as:

"Stevie is sitting by the river."

Anonymous, 4 yr 46 days ago
There are many verbs which show the causative/inchoative 'alternations.'

[1] I flattened my tire. (causative)

[2] My tire flattened. (inchoative)

The verb 'rip' shows this causative/inchoative alternation, I think, but in the sentence

# Stevie is ripping his script up

it cannot be called as 'inchoative,' to my knowledge.

...............................................

# Stevie is just sitting down. (inchoative, IMO)

© MediaCet Ltd. 2009, v5.0.3607.32596. All content posted by our users is a contribution to the public domain, this does not include imported usenet posts.*
For web related enquires please contact us on webmaster@mediacet.com, status updates are available at status.mediacet.com.
*Usenet post removal: Use 'X-No-Archive'. You may not have understood that your posts would end up in the public domain. Please send proof of the poster's email, we will remove immediately.