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Teleostomi  #364154  Sun, 13 May 07 10:46 AM

This is from His Own Country by Pearl Buck.

There was no music in the roar and the grind of trolley cars to have made him homesick.

I don't know why the perfect tense was used in this sentence (I'd have written "to make him homesick"). Could anyone help me?

  
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Marius Hancu  #364187  Sun, 13 May 07 12:23 PM
Because the meaning is:
which could have made
him homesick
  
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Teleostomi  #367354  Sat, 19 May 07 05:03 AM
Thanks! Could I ask once more?

Could you tell me what's the difference between these two? As the author (Pearl Buck) wrote 1, not 2, there must be a reason.

1 There was no music in the roar and the grind of trolley cars to have made him homesick.
2 There was no music in the roar and the grind of trolley cars to make him homesick.
  
Anonymous  #367356  Sat, 19 May 07 05:23 AM

The way it's written implies either that he should be homesick, or he is homesick.

The way you suggested doesn't imply if he's homesick or not.

  
Marius Hancu  #367432  Sat, 19 May 07 11:20 AM
 Teleostomi wrote:

Could you tell me what's the difference between these two? As the author (Pearl Buck) wrote 1, not 2, there must be a reason.

I told you the reason. Read it as I told you and you'll understand.

There was no such music.

If such music had been available, it would/could have made him sick.


It's about a potential event in the past which didn't take place. In such cases, (contrary-to-the-fact), the perfect participle (have made) is used after the modal verbs. In this case, the modal verb is ellipted.



  
Teleostomi  #376579  Fri, 08 Jun 07 10:31 AM
Marius, thanks, but I doubt your explanation on this matter.Sad [:(]

(3)There was no one to console me in this group.
(4)There was no one to have consoled me in that group.
What's the difference of meaning between 3 and 4?

  
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