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Sextus  #68339  Tue, 18 Jan 05 07:17 AM
Hello Pedanticus. Here are some doubts:

1) “The past few years have witnessed the publication of a considerable number of books and papers on the influence that ancient scepticism (broadly defined) [has] exerted upon early modern philosophy.”
You suggest here the present perfect. But as I’m referring to the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, it sounds strange to me.

2) “There have been two main reactions to this work: some scholars have regarded Popkin’s view about the decisive import of scepticism in moulding modern philosophy and science as exaggerated, whereas others have sought to reinforce his thesis either by deepening the study of the role played by scepticism in figures discussed by him, or by revealing the influence of scepticism in other modern thinkers.”
First, I used “to regard”, but maintained the present perfect. Second, with regard to “deepening the study”, maybe I should say “deepen the understanding”. But I preferred to employ “study”, but I don’t know which verb I should use.

3) “Here Paganini seems to interpret the notion of phainomenon as used by Sextus as referring exclusively to any appearance deriving from sensory perception, assimilation he explicitly operates later on (72–73, 74)”. [last clause odd – ‘an assimilation he explicitly operates on later’?].
I don’t understand whether by adding “an” before “assimilation”, the sentence is correct, or whether I should rewrite the whole clause.

4) “There are few passages of Sextus’ work where this term is restricted to the realm of sensory perception, the most relevant of these is probably Pyrroneioi Hypotyposeis (PH) I 8–9.”
I used “few” because I believe there are not many passages where that happens. I don’t know how you would say it. In any case, I don’t understand what you mean by saying that that word has a “negative” sense.

5) “Now, it is clear that the appearances the Pyrrhonist has in virtue of his natural capability to think, the laws and customs of his community, and the skills he has gained are not sensory appearances.”

6) “Though I agree with his interpretation, I think that sometimes he either disregards some facts, or is not entirely fair to some of the scholars with whom he discusses. Indeed, Gisela Striker adopts this view in some of her papers”.
First, you proposed “debates these questions”, but actually I’m not referring to any issues, so I’ve preferred to use “to discuss” without any object. Second, you suggested “several” instead of “some”. Then I added “of her” in order to keep “some”, because the papers are three.

Thanks,

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MrPedantic  #68378  Tue, 18 Jan 05 01:47 PM
Hello Sextus

Here you go:

1) “The past few years have witnessed the publication of a considerable number of books and papers on the influence that ancient scepticism (broadly defined) [has] exerted upon early modern philosophy.”
You suggest here the present perfect. But as I’m referring to the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, it sounds strange to me.
- Sorry, you're quite right. I hadn't allowed for context.

2) “There have been two main reactions to this work: some scholars have regarded Popkin’s view about the decisive import of scepticism in moulding modern philosophy and science as exaggerated, whereas others have sought to reinforce his thesis either by deepening the study of the role played by scepticism in figures discussed by him, or by revealing the influence of scepticism in other modern thinkers.”
First, I used “to regard”, but maintained the present perfect.
- Fine!
Second, with regard to “deepening the study”, maybe I should say “deepen the understanding”. But I preferred to employ “study”, but I don’t know which verb I should use.
- 'either by further study of the role'?

3) “Here Paganini seems to interpret the notion of phainomenon as used by Sextus as referring exclusively to any appearance deriving from sensory perception, assimilation he explicitly operates later on (72-73, 74)”. [last clause odd - ‘an assimilation he explicitly operates on later’?].
I don’t understand whether by adding “an” before “assimilation”, the sentence is correct, or whether I should rewrite the whole clause.
- Adding 'an' is better. I do find it difficult to get a meaning here; though maybe a specialist would have no trouble.

4) “There are few passages of Sextus’ work where this term is restricted to the realm of sensory perception, the most relevant of these is probably Pyrroneioi Hypotyposeis (PH) I 8-9.”
I used “few” because I believe there are not many passages where that happens. I don’t know how you would say it. In any case, I don’t understand what you mean by saying that that word has a “negative” sense.
- 'I've found few bookshops that sell the works of Sextus E.' - negative: the speaker regrets the fact.
- 'I've found a few bookshops that sell the works of Sextus E.' - positive: the speaker is quite pleased. It's 'half empty vs half full'.
So here, I think you want 'a few'; probably with a semi-colon after 'perception'.

5) “Now, it is clear that the appearances the Pyrrhonist has in virtue of his natural capability to think, the laws and customs of his community, and the skills he has gained are not sensory appearances.”
> 'by virtue of'?
I'm not sure 'has' is strong enough here. It has an auxiliary air.

6) “Though I agree with his interpretation, I think that sometimes he either disregards some facts, or is not entirely fair to some of the scholars with whom he discusses. Indeed, Gisela Striker adopts this view in some of her papers”.
First, you proposed “debates these questions”, but actually I’m not referring to any issues, so I’ve preferred to use “to discuss” without any object.
- 'discuss' without direct object sits oddly here. 'engages'?

Second, you suggested “several” instead of “some”. Then I added “of her” in order to keep “some”, because the papers are three.
- fine!

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Sextus  #68414  Tue, 18 Jan 05 04:59 PM
Hi MrP.

1) “Here Paganini seems to interpret the notion of phainomenon as used by Sextus as referring exclusively to any appearance deriving from sensory perception, which he explicitly does later on (72–73, 74)”.
Maybe now is ok?

2) “Now, it is clear that the appearances the Pyrrhonist has got by virtue of his natural capability to think, the laws and customs of his community, and the skills he has gained are not sensory appearances.”
“Has got” is better?

3) You’re right about “few” and “a few”. I had learned that a few years ago, but then I got the idea that “few” also referred to a smaller number of things or people than “a few”.

4) “Though I agree with his interpretation, I think that sometimes he either disregards some facts, or is not entirely fair to some of the scholars whom he criticizes”.
Maybe now is ok?

Thanks,

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MrPedantic  #68426  Tue, 18 Jan 05 05:54 PM
All except #2 sound fine now. For 'capability', maybe 'ability'. I'm not quite sure what 'to get appearances' means. Is the meaning something like 'the public persona he has developed'? or 'the impression he gives to others'? or 'his public character'?
  
Sextus  #68428  Tue, 18 Jan 05 06:06 PM
Hi,

1) No, with "has got" I mean "possesses". "Appearance" is a technical term that means "representation", "impression", etc. I added "got" because you told me that the "has" looked like an auxiliary.

2) "Others have sought to reinforce his thesis either by further study of the role played by scepticism in figures discussed by him, or by revealing the influence of scepticism in other modern thinkers.”
I was just thinking if I should rather say "by further studying".

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MrPedantic  #68473  Wed, 19 Jan 05 12:05 AM
Perhaps: 'by studying in greater detail'.

I am still puzzled by 'appearances'. '...impressions the P. has acquired by virtue...'?
  
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