To us the Chinese,

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Angliholic  #530843  Sun, 22 Jun 08 07:57 AM
To us the Chinese, France and Japan are two foreign countries.
To us Chinese, ...


HI,

Which one of the above sounds more idiomatic to you? Thanks.
  
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26TMNTJG2PG  #530849  Sun, 22 Jun 08 08:03 AM
To us Chinese, ...
  
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Angliholic  #530853  Sun, 22 Jun 08 08:13 AM
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To us Chinese, ...

Thanks, 26TMNT.

But I'm still confused because we often read "The Chinese is a peace-loving people." So could you tell me why it's "To us Chinese" instead of "To us the Chinese" in the base sentence? Thanks.

  
26TMNTJG2PG  #530894  Sun, 22 Jun 08 10:30 AM

When a Chinese is asked the question, "What nationality do you belong to?"
The person will reply, "I am a Chinese" Here an indefinite article is used.
In any communication, whey you say, "To us", more than one person is referred to, and you cannot use an indefinite article which is signifying one in number.
As such, you drop the article.
The use of the in the other sentence is the reference is to a specific and unique people.

  
Feebs11  #530905  Sun, 22 Jun 08 10:56 AM
 "The Chinese are a peace-loving people" or "The Chinese nation is peace-loving"

You could say "To us, the Chinese (people), ... ", but you will omit the article in "us Chinese" because in your base sentence "Chinese" is used as a collective noun.

 

  
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