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Inchoateknowledge  #281858  Mon, 16 Oct 06 10:12 PM

"'presume' implies that whatever is taken for granted is entitled to belief until disproved"

What does this sentence mean.

I just can not put my head around it.

  
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Marius Hancu  #281863  Mon, 16 Oct 06 10:30 PM
I guess you need 1 here:
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you're presumed innocent: one believes in the truth of the assertion that you're innocent until the contrary assertion  is proven (in a court of law)

Every man is to be presumed innocent till he is proved to be guilty. --Blackstone.
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Phoenix PR  #281870  Mon, 16 Oct 06 10:39 PM

Presumption of innocence is a legal right that accused persons enjoy in criminal trials in many nations.  It states that no person shall be considered guilty until finally convicted by a court.

"Presumed Innocent" is the title of an American crime thriller book and movie: [link]

Not to be confused with "assume."

  
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Clive  #281871  Mon, 16 Oct 06 10:39 PM

Hi,

you're presumed innocent: one believes in the truth of the assertion that you are you're innocent until the contrary assertion  is proven (in a court of law)

True, but . . . interestingly, the jury's verdict is not worded as 'innocent', but instead as 'not guilty'. This seems to me to suggest a subtle distinction. (eg perhaps you're as guilty as sin, but we can't prove it.)

I believe the Scottish judicial system permits a third possible verdict which is worded as 'not proven'.

Best wishes, Clive

  
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Phoenix PR  #281873  Mon, 16 Oct 06 10:43 PM

And how could I forget one of the most famous "quotable quotes" using the word "presume"

"Dr. Livingstone, I presume..."

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Clive  #281890  Mon, 16 Oct 06 11:19 PM

Hi,

For a little light relief, try this joke/riddle.

If Livingstone's answer is DR.LIVINGSTONE I PRESUME, what was the question?

[If you can't work out the answer, I'll tell you.]

Best wishes, Clive

  
Formlit  #281911  Tue, 17 Oct 06 01:42 AM

"I just can not put my head around it."


This means you are having a hard time accepting "it".
But the phrase is usually: "I just can't get my head around it."  But I guess they mean more or less the same thing.


  
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Inchoateknowledge  #282052  Tue, 17 Oct 06 10:06 AM

"I just can not put my head around it."

It means I can not understand it.  Get should be substituted for put, mind.Wink [;)]

thanks for the answers.

I was in doubt as to the meaning of entitled in the sentence.

Does it mean to be classified as?

 


  
Marius Hancu  #282114  Tue, 17 Oct 06 01:06 PM
>entitled to belief until disproved
it has the right to be believed until disproved
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