R H Draney    902557 Mon, 10 Nov 08 12:03 AM mm filted: "The only time I have ever heard (or pronounced it) it is in the Scottish song "The Bonny Lass o' Fyvie" (generally around verse 6)." "Of course now I can't stop saying hautboy in my head. I wonder how long before I blurt it out!" Let's hope the next Leap swiss-cheeses your memory..r "You got Schadenfreude on my Weltanschauung!" "You got Weltanschauung in my Schadenfreude!" R H Draney Songs, Music

	mm    902558 Mon, 10 Nov 08 03:49 AM "mm filted:" "Of course now I can't stop saying hautboy in my head. I wonder how long before I blurt it out!" "Let's hope the next Leap swiss-cheeses your memory..r" About what? mm

	R H Draney    902573 Mon, 10 Nov 08 05:49 AM mm filted: "mm filted: Let's hope the next Leap swiss-cheeses your memory..r" "About what?" Ziggy's still working on that..r "You got Schadenfreude on my Weltanschauung!" "You got Weltanschauung in my Schadenfreude!" R H Draney

	John Holmes    651183 Mon, 10 Nov 08 10:57 AM "Peter Groves filted:" "If you utter a fully released /d/ in "handbag" (hand-bag) ... this doesn't quite explain why they say "fore-head" for /forrid/." "I was with you (more or less) until you hit "falcon", and I don't think it's from unfamiliarity; most of us may not raise them, but the birds themselves are in plentiful supply around these parts.." The most familiar falcon to most of Peter's students would be a Ford model, and it has always been pronounced fal-con (or foul can, according to some). "What do your students do with "clapboard"?...r" They would be very unlikely to ever see the word. Regards John for mail: my initials plus a u e at tpg dot com dot au John Holmes Students

	Charles A Lieberman    651190 Mon, 10 Nov 08 07:07 PM Peter Groves Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:44:19 GMT > Daniel Jones' EPD, "which describes a pre-war kind of RP, gives the pronunciations /f(OR)lk@n/ (I'm using (OR) for the vowel of "fall") and /fOLlk@n/ (as in "folly") and notes that /f(OR)k@n/ (without the /l/) "is the usual pronunciation among those who practise the sport of falconry"." What's the archipelago near the Argentinean coast (if it isn't /ma:lvIna:s/)? I read of falcons before I saw them, so I go by the spelling pronunciation /f&lk@n/. I say John Woods's character's name from "WarGames" the same way. Charles A. Lieberman > "The explanation is extremely simple. Brooklyn, New York, USA > It doesn't happen." Charles A Lieberman Spelling, Pronunciation, Vowels, Speaking, Countries, Writing, United States

	R H Draney    651205 Tue, 11 Nov 08 12:11 AM Charles A Lieberman filted: "which describes a pre-war kind of RP, gives the pronunciations ... usual pronunciation among those who practise the sport of falconry"." "I read of falcons before I saw them, so I go by the spelling pronunciation /f&lk@n/. I say John Woods's character's name from "WarGames" the same way." If you need a pronunciation authority, try this: ..r "You got Schadenfreude on my Weltanschauung!" "You got Weltanschauung in my Schadenfreude!" R H Draney Spelling, Pronunciation, Speaking, Writing, Video

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