javawizard    650923 Fri, 07 Nov 08 04:29 PM Try to say the alphabet without moving your lips or your tongue. Every letter will sound exactly the same. - from the American Language section of www.odd-info.com javawizard Countries, United States, American, Languages

	Don Phillipson    650926 Fri, 07 Nov 08 04:49 PM "Try to say the alphabet without moving your lips or your tongue. Every letter will sound exactly the same. - from the American Language section of www.odd-info.com" The web site appears grossly misinformed. The letters K and N can be spoken without moving the lips or tongue and sound quite different. Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) Don Phillipson Countries, United States, American, Languages

	John O'Flaherty    650932 Fri, 07 Nov 08 05:14 PM "Try to say the alphabet without moving your lips or ... the same. - from the American Language section of www.odd-info.com" "The web site appears grossly misinformed. The letters K and N can be spoken without moving the lips or tongue and sound quite different." As I say it, "n" requires quite a bit of tongue movement. Unless you mean a silent "n". John John O'Flaherty Countries, United States, American, Languages

	R H Draney    650947 Fri, 07 Nov 08 09:29 PM javawizard filted: "Try to say the alphabet without moving your lips or your tongue. Every letter will sound exactly the same. - from the American Language section of www.odd-info.com" Amazing!...the B in "debt" sounds just like the C in "indict", the D in "handsome", the G in "gnome" and the S in "viscount"..r "You got Schadenfreude on my Weltanschauung!" "You got Weltanschauung in my Schadenfreude!" R H Draney Countries, United States, American, Languages, Refinancing

	Peter Groves    650959 Sat, 08 Nov 08 12:13 AM Native speakers of English don't, unless dictating to children. In the same way they don't utter a /d/ in saying "sandwich" or "handbag" (which in rapid speech is indistinguishable from "ham-bag"). Peter Groves Speaking, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, Speeches, Languages

	Martin Crossley    650965 Sat, 08 Nov 08 01:35 AM "That's not true, but not for the reasons others have ... said they would. You don't pronounce the d in handsome?" "Native speakers of English don't, unless dictating to children. In the same way they don't utter a /d/ in saying "sandwich" or "handbag" (which in rapid speech is indistinguishable from "ham-bag")." I'm English and have just a vestige of a "d" in handsome and a subdued but audible one in sandwich, but a full one in handbag (hand-bag). Martin Crossley Speaking, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, Speeches, Languages