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New2grammar  #383804  Sun, 24 Jun 07 05:17 PM

Is there any difference between "under the sun" and "in the sun"? I find them interchangable.

Thanks!

  
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Yoong Liat  #383815  Sun, 24 Jun 07 05:58 PM
 New2grammar wrote:

Is there any difference between "under the sun" and "in the sun"? I find them interchangable.

sun = the heat and light that come from the sun

We sat in the sun, eating ice cream.

everything/anything, etc under the sun = everything that exists or is possible.

You can buy jeans in any colour under the sun.

I've tried everything under the sun on this stain, but I just can't get rid of it.

  
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New2grammar  #383819  Sun, 24 Jun 07 06:12 PM

Thank Yoong Liat for pointing out the difference. I have a follow-up question.

Is it wrong to say 'We sat under the sun, eating ice-cream.'?

I believe in contexts that carry the first meaning we are allowed to interchangeably use under/in.

Please correct me.

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Yoong Liat  #383844  Sun, 24 Jun 07 07:21 PM
 New2grammar wrote:

Is it wrong to say 'We sat under the sun, eating ice-cream.'?


Is it wrong to say 'We sat under the sun, eating ice-cream'? YES.

'sun' means 'the heat and light that come from the sun'.

Therefore, it should be "We sat in the sun, eating ice-cream."

We can discuss anything under the sun. (We can talk about anything.)

'sun' also means the burning star in the sky, from which the earth receives light and heat.

So if you use 'under the sun', you are referring to the burning star. Logically, it would appear that 'We sat under the sun' is correct. After all, we are under the sun. However, because 'sun' also refers to the heat and light from the sun, we have to say 'We sit in the sun' although it seems to mean that we are inside the sun.

Think of 'sun' as 'sunshine' and it becomes clearer why we should say 'We sit in the sun."

  
New2grammar  #383852  Sun, 24 Jun 07 07:43 PM

Actually, the reason I posted that follow-up question is that Google gives quite a number of hits on "under the sun". For example,

"provide cushioned support that enables the sunbather to lie in comfort for hours under the sun"

Your body will be thankful if you take pauses in sunbathing under hot sun

The fountains dotting campus help students spend some time cooling off under the California sun

 

Does it mean, in these contexts they refer to under the burning star? If so, I don't know when to choose which,  the burning star or sunshine.

I want to make sure I get this right once and for all. It has been bothering me for quite some time. Thank you!

  
Yoong Liat  #383860  Sun, 24 Jun 07 08:28 PM

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All Our Yesterdays

My wife, Lalla, happened to sit next to Richard Leakey at a lunch to launch his .... He has been accused of everything under the sun including colonialism, ...
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Wibble about Henley

People have been deliberately coming down an hour early for outings (when else does that happen) to sit in the sun and watch everything. ...

 

sit out in the sun and sip interminable cups of coffee, and play tavli with the priest. Sometimes the walls are threatening in their whiteness; ...
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Yoong Liat  #383863  Sun, 24 Jun 07 08:40 PM

New2grammar

Please note that the earlier examples provided by me are from dictionaries.

As for the website I posted above, there is nothing regarding 'sit under the sun'. 

I hope this helps.

  
New2grammar  #383867  Sun, 24 Jun 07 08:46 PM

Thanks, Yoong Liat. Your examples are from much credible sites. Smile [:)]

So, clearly there's no overlapping meaning between under and in the sun.

Thanks again!

  
Yoong Liat  #383868  Sun, 24 Jun 07 08:52 PM

New2grammar

Don't rely on what you find from Google. Quite often the sentences provided are incorrect.

Best wishes

  
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