underline/underscore (American English)

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MrPedantic  #152999  Sun, 30 Oct 05 01:03 AM

I don't think you can use the keyboard symbol _ to underline anything, can you? (In fact, it seems more usual to use it for creating italics.)

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paco2004  #153004  Sun, 30 Oct 05 01:30 AM

I agree. The simple "_" with no letter upon it should be called 'underscore'. BTW when I see "_", I come to have a desire for alcoholic beverage.  It is because here in Japan people often call "_" as 'underbar'.   

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MrPedantic  #153029  Sun, 30 Oct 05 02:12 AM
 Paco2004 wrote:

...'underbar'....   

Surely that would require several alcoholic beverages?

 

  
paco2004  #153031  Sun, 30 Oct 05 02:18 AM
Ugggh  .. When I was young, alcoholic bevergages were substantive but now they are abstract one : alcoholic beverage. Stick out tongue [:P]
  
davkett  #153034  Sun, 30 Oct 05 02:22 AM
 MrPedantic wrote:

I don't think you can use the keyboard symbol _ to underline anything, can you? (In fact, it seems more usual to use it for creating italics.)

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You're right. I don't know what I was thinking. 

 How do you use it for italics?

 

  
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MrPedantic  #153035  Sun, 30 Oct 05 02:34 AM

Well, you can use underlining on e.g. a typewriter, or in handwritten texts, in place of italics (in scientific names, etc). And MS seems to have picked up on this, as any Word text surrounded by underscores is autocorrected to italics (if AutoCorrect is "on").

I think underscores are also used for italics in .txt files sometimes.

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davkett  #153065  Sun, 30 Oct 05 04:52 AM
 MrPedantic wrote:

Well, you can use underlining on e.g. a typewriter

That's it!  I was thinking of the  "_" key on a typewriter (from ancient times), not on a keyboard.  So back to my earlier post in which I'm perplexed about where the disagreement stands on the question of the symbol. 

I don't consider this question resolved yet. 

 

  
CalifJim  #153072  Sun, 30 Oct 05 05:22 AM
Gosh!  There's been a lot of activity on this thread since I visited last.
My answer was simply an answer to the original poster, who asked what Americans called the symbol "_".  Since I work in data processing in the U.S. and have seen that symbol daily for many years, I felt I could easily answer -- at least what all the people I know in data processing say all the time:  "underscore".  It is used primarily as a connective symbol, thus:  purchase_order_amount.  It serves two purposes:  It allows an entire string of symbols, unbroken by any spaces -- as required by most computer languages, to be used to represent a certain entity, and it allows the human reader to read it easily.  (It's easier to read than purchordamt, for example, which represents an older style of coding.)  Long story short, if you ask a programmer to read the variable name task_hours over the phone, he or she will say, "T, A, S, K, underscore, H, O, U, R, S".

Underlines, in this sort of work, are not individual characters like the underscore is.  They are a format applied to a string of characters in a given font.  Working in that context,     is an underlined space, rarely seen in isolation, of course.  The way many fonts work, it may be impossible to see an underlined underscore, but internally, it is represented by the code for the underscore accompanied by the code which designates that the underscore symbol occurs underlined!

as_in_this_grouping  Yes, I typed underscores between those words, then applied underlining!  Can you tell?  Surprisingly to me, it does show as two different elements on my screen.Geeked [8-|]

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davkett  #153163  Sun, 30 Oct 05 01:35 PM

 CalifJim wrote:
Gosh!  There's been a lot of activity on this thread since I visited last.

I'm just wondering now whether we could use a distinction between  underline and underscore-- a distinction that has not yet made its way into dictionaries --and a symbol for each, i.e.,  underline:  "U", a line drawn under a single word or phrase of text; underscore: "_" , a line drawn under the single space between units of text.

Shall we vote?

  
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