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Anonymous  #490199  Tue, 18 Mar 08 08:10 AM

Which ones are correct? (if you ask my opinion first, I have no idea) 

 

1. Jakovich won three club champion awards and two premierships -- he turned 23.

A) by the time
B) until
C) before
D) when

2. -- he reached the age of thirty he had won four outstanding performance awards and two fighting spirit prizes.

A) By the time
B) Until
C) Before
D) When

  
Avangi  #490298  Tue, 18 Mar 08 03:34 PM

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Ant_222  #490302  Tue, 18 Mar 08 03:42 PM
«Which ones are correct? (if you ask my opinion first, I have no idea)»

Why're you asking then? Bare answers will scarcely help you understand English tenses! Go read about the subject in grammar books and then ask about what you haven't got...

Here's my try:

1 — C.
2 — A, C, D.
(hope someone corrects me :)

EDIT: Using "when" in #1 will bear the meaning that he won all the five awards the year he turned 23, which is technically correct but unlikely.
  
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Anonymous  #490303  Tue, 18 Mar 08 03:43 PM
OK, only "before" works for both.
  
Kooyeen  #490351  Tue, 18 Mar 08 06:10 PM
I'd say
1 - C
2 - A

...but I wouldn't bet much on that guess even if had some money to waste. Stick out tongue
  
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CalifJim  #490353  Tue, 18 Mar 08 06:17 PM
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I'd say
1 - C
2 - A
Me too.  Those are probably the best answers, but I wouldn't have any serious objection to reversing them (1 - A, 2 - C).

CJ 

  
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novrgn  #490389  Tue, 18 Mar 08 08:00 PM

"By the time" is used to imagine future events.So I think only "before" can be used here in both the sentences but convert both of these sentences into past perfect tense.

  
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Ant_222  #490402  Tue, 18 Mar 08 08:54 PM
novrgn: «"By the time" is used to imagine future events.»

Not at all!
  
CalifJim  #490466  Wed, 19 Mar 08 01:14 AM
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novrgn: «"By the time" is used to imagine future events.»

Not at all!
Not at all!

"By the time" IS indeed used to imagine future events.

But "by the time" is not used ONLY to imagine future events -- which is what I think you meant to say!  Smile

CJ 

  
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