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Kooyeen  #403027  Sat, 11 Aug 07 01:14 AM
Hi,
which verb tenses can be used with "until recently"? I thought only the simple past or the past continuous could be used, but I've also seen some perfect tenses... Is there any difference?
American English, as always:

He worked in NY until recently. <-- ok, I think
He has worked in NY until recently. <--- I don't know. And if it's ok, is he still working there. or is that possible?
He has been working in NY until recently. <--- I don't know. And if it's ok, is he still working there. or is that possible?
He used to work in NY until recently. <--- I don't think it's ok. Too little time has passed to use "used to".

Any advice? Thank you in advance Smile [:)]

  
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Philip  #403035  Sat, 11 Aug 07 02:07 AM
 Kooyeen wrote:
Hi,
which verb tenses can be used with "until recently"? I thought only the simple past or the past continuous could be used, but I've also seen some perfect tenses... Is there any difference?
American English, as always:

He worked in NY until recently. <-- ok, I think OK
He has worked in NY until recently. <--- I don't know. And if it's ok, is he still working there. or is that possible? I don't think the present perfect works here.
He has been working in NY until recently. <--- I don't know. And if it's ok, is he still working there. or is that possible? "had been working" would be OK
He used to work in NY until recently. <--- I don't think it's ok. Too little time has passed to use "used to". I think it's OK, but not very natural.

Any advice? Thank you in advance Smile [:)]

I hope this helps.
  
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CalifJim  #403070  Sat, 11 Aug 07 06:52 AM
I breezed through a bunch of Google pages on "until recently" and found that most of them used past tense, almost as many used present perfect, but not as many, and a few used past perfect.  I didn't see any that used progressive tenses, but I think that was just coincidence, and I didn't see any that used "used to".  All the ones I saw seemed grammatical to me.
The 'used to' example is the only one of yours that I'd definitely advise against.  The progressive one is so-so, not great.

CJ

Edit:  The more I try the "used to" version over and over in my head, the better it sounds.  Now I'm thinking it's OK. Tongue Tied [:S]
  
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Kooyeen  #403237  Sat, 11 Aug 07 04:39 PM
Hmm, interesting... I see. If I one day I hear or read anything strange and I have any other related questions, I will open a new thread and ask about a specific example.
Thanks Smile [:)]
  
Anonymous  #403244  Sat, 11 Aug 07 04:45 PM

 Kooyeen wrote:
Hi,
which verb tenses can be used with "until recently"? I thought only the simple past or the past continuous could be used, but I've also seen some perfect tenses... Is there any difference?
American English, as always:

He worked in NY until recently. <-- ok, I think OK
He has worked in NY until recently. <--- I don't know. And if it's ok, is he still working there. or is that possible? PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE
He has been working in NY until recently. <--- I don't know. And if it's ok, is he still working there. or is that possible? SOUNDS ODD, NO
He used to work in NY until recently. <--- I don't think it's ok. Too little time has passed to use "used to". OK
Any advice? Thank you in advance Smile [:)]

  
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