Peixinha  +  233860 Thu, 08 Jun 06 12:23 PM Hi, What's the meaning of this? Does it mean "untrained" "amateurish" or "ordinary"? Thank you in advance, Peixinha Joined on Mon, Jun 5 2006 New Member 50

	Grammar Geek  +  234015 Fri, 09 Jun 06 01:29 AM I know you've been waiting all day for an answer, but I had no idea what this meant. I've never hear it before. Up the creek, yes. In the weeds, yes. But not this. Usually I wouldn't write just to say "I don't know!" but you've had no responses all day, and perhaps that's because this phrase is as unknown to others as it is to me. Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Veteran Member 19,665 Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random!

	Clive  +  234062 Fri, 09 Jun 06 05:28 AM Hi, I wonder if perhaps this is part of a sentence about George Bush that you are taking totally out of context? eg, from the NBC website: That sums up the Bush administration's Iraq-style "reconstruction" at home We await your context, to clarify this. Best wishes, Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,621 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo Constructions

	Peixinha  +  234068 Fri, 09 Jun 06 05:54 AM Thank you, Barb, Marius and Clive, In fact, there's no context with this phrase. Because I found it in a learning material written by a nonnative speaker of English. I don't know from where the author took this expression. But I think it must be a mistake. Thank you again for your help. Regards,   Peixinha Regards