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Latest post Tue, Jun 20 2006 2:38 AM by Anonymous. 10 replies.
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Anonymous
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Wed, 07 Jun 06 04:28 AM
The US is planning to invade Sweden because the US can't control the pirates who live there. Many Swedes completely ignore the copyright claims of Hollywood, and this is making Uncle Sam really mad! So mad, in fact, that they are planning to attack! Some Swedes have already fled the country for the safety of the Netherlands.
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Anonymous,
3 yr 168 days ago
If you don't believe this, then do a quick search; Pirate + demonstrations + Stockholm.
Here is a speech by the leader of the Pirates;
"There is nothing new under the Sun."
This speech, about freedom from tyranny and oppression, was given at a demonstration in Stockholm last weekend.
Friends, citizens, pirates:
There is nothing new under the Sun.
My name is Rickard Falkvinge, and I am the leader of the Pirate Party.
During
the past week we have seen a number of rights violations taking place.
We have seen the police misusing their arresting rights. We have seen
innocent parties being harmed. We have seen how the media industry
operates. We have seen how the politicians up to the highest levels
bend backwards to protect the media industry.
This is scandalous to no limit. This is the reason why we are here today.
The
media industry wants us to believe that this is a question about
payment models, about a particular professional group getting paid.
They want us to believe that this is about their dropping sales
figures, about some dry statistics. But that is only an excuse. This is
really about something totally else.
To understand today’s
situation in the light of the history, we must go back 400 years - to
the time when the [Catholic] Church had the monopoly over both culture and
knowledge. Whatever the [Catholic] Church said, was the truth. That was pyramid
communication. You had one person at the top talking to the many under
him in the pyramid. Culture and knowledge had a source, and that source
was the [Catholic] Church.
And God have mercy on those who dared to
challenge the culture and knowledge monopoly of the [Catholic] Church! They were
subjected to the most horrible trials that man could envision at the
time. Under no circumstances did the [Catholic] Church allow its citizens to
spread information on their own. Whenever it happened, the [Catholic] Church
applied its full judicial powers to obstruct, to punish, to harass the
guilty ones.
There is nothing new under the Sun.
Today we
know that the only right thing to happen for the society to evolve was
to let the knowledge go free. We know now that Galileo Galilei was
right. Even if he had to puncture a monopoly of knowledge.
We
are speaking here about the time when the [Catholic] Church went out in its full
force and ruled that it was unnecessary for its citizens to learn to
read or to write, because the priest could tell them anyway everything
they needed to know. The [Catholic] Church understood what it would mean for them
to lose their control.
Then came the printing press.
Suddenly
there was not only a source of knowledge to learn from, but a number of
them. The citizens – who at this time had started to learn to read –
could take their own part of the knowledge without being sanctioned.
The [Catholic] Church went mad. The royal houses went mad. The British Royal Court
went as far as to make a law that allowed the printing of books only to
those print owners who had a special license from the Royal Court. Only
they were allowed to multiply knowledge and culture to the citizens.
This law was called "copyright".
Then
a couple of centuries passed, and we got the freedom of press. But
everywhere the same old model of communication was still being used:
one person talking to the many. And this fact was utilized by the State
who introduced the system of “responsible publishers”.
The
citizens could admittedly pick pieces of knowledge to themselves, but
there always had to be somebody who could be made responsible if – what
a horrible thought – somebody happened to pick up a piece of wrong
knowledge.
And this very thing is undergoing a fundamental
change today - because the Internet does not follow the old model
anymore. We not only download culture and knowledge. We upload it to
others at the same time. We share files. The knowledge and the culture
have amazingly lost their central point of control.
And as this is the central point of my speech, let me lay it out in some detail.
Downloading
is the old mass media model where there is a central point of control,
a point with a ‘responsible publisher’ – somebody who can be brought to
court, forced to pay and so on. A central point of control from where
everybody can download knowledge and culture, a central point that can
grant rights and take them away as needed and as wanted.
Culture and knowledge monopoly. Control.
Filesharing
involves simultaneous uploading and downloading by every connected
person. There is no central point of control at all; instead we have a
situation where the culture and the information flow organically
between millions of different people.
Something totally
different, something totally new in the history of human
communications. There is no more a person that can be made responsible
if wrong knowledge happens to spread.
This is the reason why the
media corporations talk so much about ‘legal downloading’. Legal.
Downloading. It is because they want to make it the only legal way of
things for people to pick up items from a central point that is under
their control. Downloading, not filesharing.
And this is precisely why we will change those laws.
During
the passed week we have seen how far an acting party is prepared to go
to prevent the loss of his control. We saw the Constitution itself
being violated. We saw what sort of methods of force and attacks on
personal integrity the police is prepared to apply, not to fight crime,
but in an obvious intention to harass those involved and those who have
been close to them.
There is nothing new under the Sun, and the
history always repeats itself. This is not about a group of
professionals getting paid. This is about control over culture and
knowledge. Because whoever controls them, controls the world.
The
media industry has tried to make us feel shame, to say that what we are
doing is illegal, that we are pirates. They try to roll a stone over
us. Take a look around today – see how they have failed. Yes, we are
pirates. But whoever believes that it is shameful to be a pirate, has
got it wrong. It is something we are proud of.
That is because
we have already seen what it means to be without central control. We
have already tasted, felt and smelled the freedom of being without
top-down controlled monopoly of culture and knowledge. We have already
learned how to read and how to write.
And we do not intend to forget how to read and how to write, even if yesterday’s media interests do not find it acceptable.
MY NAME IS RICKARD, AND I AM A PIRATE!
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Do you think the U.S will invade your country too? Sometime soon?
Anonymous,
3 yr 168 days ago
Also found this. It's about the beneficial effect that Pirates could
have on the environment. It's a pity that Hollywood is pushing for the
U.S. to invade their homeland.
You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes,
hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the
shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have
included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the
average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see,
there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between
pirates and global temperature.
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candy
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Tue, 13 Jun 06 05:28 AM
Thanks for sharing interesting information, Anon. ![Smile [:)]](/emoticons/emotion-1.gif)
After reading your info I did a search a bit.
I'm very surprised to know that the US version of the Pirate Party exsists!!
(The Pirate Party of the United States)
Do you think your country has its own version of the PP already?
Anyway...... the number of the Pirate Party must be rapidly increasing.....
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candy
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Tue, 13 Jun 06 05:31 AM
 Anonymous wrote: | Also found this. It's about the beneficial effect that Pirates could have on the environment. It's a pity that Hollywood is pushing for the U.S. to invade their homeland.
You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.
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How did you find such "bizarre" information?
Do you think you can find more info that can prove Pirates are beneficial to this caotic planet - so called the earth?
Candy
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Anonymous,
3 yr 161 days ago
Yep, Here is the Captain of the American Pirate Party  And here is a link to the original Pirate Party, in Hollowood besieged Sweden; Pirates are HereThere's an English button at the top of the page.
Watchayakan,
3 yr 160 days ago
I believe that graph was made by the followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. =\
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candy
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Mon, 19 Jun 06 06:45 PM
| Anonymous wrote: | Yep,
Here is the Captain of the American Pirate Party
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Hmm.....will he become a governor of the states in the near future?
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MrPedantic
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Tue, 20 Jun 06 12:35 AM
Grammar's all very well. But you can't beat a decent chart.
Bring on the 3D Exploded Doughnut, Anon.
MrP
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