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mainframe  +  1017 Thu, 19 Jun 03 01:15 AM
My intention is to list all the peripherals, while putting similar items into groups. "Mice" and keyboards belong to the same input device class. Tape drives and disk drives belong to the same input/output device class. Printers have a separate output class. Consoles belong to another class of output device.
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hitchhiker  +  1020 Thu, 19 Jun 03 01:30 AM
Mainframe - That's a good idea, but the problem is tape drives and disk drives will have to be seperated due to the repetition of 'and' between the drives. Plus they are in different categories anyway, as a tape drive is 'backup storage'.

Computer peripherals can include printers, mice and keyboards, tape drives, disk drives and consoles.

mice and keyboards are the only 2 grouped together.
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mainframe  +  1025 Thu, 19 Jun 03 01:46 AM
Nice to learn from you people!
Now as my final question on this topic, would you consider this sentence also acceptable?

Computer peripherals can include printers, tape drives, disk drives, consoles, and mice and keyboards.

hitchhiker  +  1027 Thu, 19 Jun 03 02:00 AM
Hehe, you're just evil! (lol!)

Computer peripherals can include printers, tape drives, disk drives, consoles, mice and keyboards.

You need to remove an 'and' from the end.
mainframe, 6 yr 157 days ago
hehehehe! Thanks a lot, guys. So, much, for, the, commas!
hitchhiker  +  1067 Thu, 19 Jun 03 02:52 PM
Glad,to,help.
Algy  +  1097 Thu, 19 Jun 03 07:23 PM
The use of a comma before 'and' is rather old fashioned and known, I think, as the 'Oxford Comma'.

It can be found in older text books and older editions of novels etc.

Generally, the trend is to use punctuation as sparingly as possible and not to use a comma before 'and'.

However, there are no hard and fast rules so if you want to use a comma do - it might just seem quaint!
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Dima, 5 yr 325 days ago
Yes it's correct. commas are put after items in a series.e.g:I like apples,oranges,and pears.
Guest, 5 yr 230 days ago
Think of non defining part of the sentence.
We've just arrived, after long trip, and we are very tired.
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