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sharad  +  248257 Mon, 24 Jul 06 05:30 AM
I need help from any of  the forum gurus ..
I am attaching a sentence correction question from Kaplan Gmat prep material. According to Kaplan, choice 1 is correct.
Please read the Kaplan's explanation..

I want to know:
1. Is "will had" correct usage ? First of all why do we need  "had" here ?? Simple "made" in place of "will had made" makes
the sentence correct, isn't it ??

2. will "will have made"  work in place of "will had made" ??

thanks,
Sharad.

PS: Please don't hesitate to critisize Kaplan or be presumptive that Kaplan explanation is correct .. I ran into lot examples where
Kaplan didn't really choose correct answer.. Smile [:)] ..


sharad
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Clive  +  248276 Mon, 24 Jul 06 06:39 AM

Hi,

... yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will had made this boast a reality.

1. Is "will had" correct usage ? 'Will' is used as a noun here. 'A powerful will' means a powerful desire, a powerful decision or intention.  I think you are mistakenly looking at 'will' as a verb form here, but it isn't. If you now look at the sentence again, I think you will understand it better. 

 First of all why do we need  "had" here ?? Simple "made" in place of "will had made" makes the sentence correct, isn't it ??  'Had made' is just past perfect. Yes, you could use 'made' instead here. It's a matter of style and emphasis.

2. will ". . . have made"  work in place of "'... had made" ?? No, there's no relevance to the present here.

Best wishes, Clive
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sharad  +  248279 Mon, 24 Jul 06 06:50 AM
Thanks Clive.. I am able to follow the sentence flow.. It makes sense to me.. however I still don't see a reason to use "had" here..
As I understand the second action "making the boast a reality" happened after SanFransiscans mocked.. So, don't we need a simple past here ? The phrase "yet within" explains which one happened first and which one happened second..

Thank you again,
Sharad.

sharad
Clive  +  248290 Mon, 24 Jul 06 07:06 AM

Hi again,

however I still don't see a reason to use "had" here..
As I understand the second action "making the boast a reality" happened after SanFransiscans mocked.. So, don't we need a simple past here ? The phrase "yet within" explains which one happened first and which one happened second..
Yes, 'made' would be OK. With 'had made', the thought is that after 20 years (or less), ie at that point in time, this had become a reality, they 'had the result of that'.

I have to go to bed now, it's 1:00am in the morning here. Any more questions, I'll be happy to answer them tomorrow.

Best wishes, Clive
Clive
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