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MrPernickety  +  614826 Fri, 19 Dec 08 06:57 AM
 Hi, everyone !

Could you tell me if the phrases below are "becoming" (or proper) and, if yes, do they mean the sentences I added after each in parenthesis:

1. That is the last I've seen of her (She's off to some place and I will never see her again)
2. That was the last I've/I had seen of her (She had gone somewhere at some point in time and I have never seen her ever since and will never see her again)

Thanks !
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Mister Micawber  +  614855 Fri, 19 Dec 08 07:41 AM
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1. That is the last I've seen of her (She was off to some place at some point in the past and I have never seen her again)-- Yes, as amended by me.
2. That was the last I've seen of her (She went somewhere at some point in the past and I have never seen her ever since)-- Yes, as amended by me.
3.  That was the last I saw of her  (She went somewhere at some point in the past and I have never seen her since)-- Yes, as amended by me.
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MrPernickety  +  614866 Fri, 19 Dec 08 07:50 AM
Hi, MM

Many thanks for such an encompassing explanation !
So, in a nutshell, there is no noticeable difference among the three expressions ?

Thanks again !
Mister Micawber  +  614870 Fri, 19 Dec 08 07:58 AM
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I see none, really-- with present perfect, the speaker is visualizing the event as more immediate in some way.
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Delmobile  +  615180 Fri, 19 Dec 08 03:37 PM
 Mr. M, do you not think the phrase "last I've seen of her" is just a bit flippant? I think it usually carries a certain sense of exasperation, maybe, as though the person's disappearance was not quite in order. 

I can't imagine, for instance, using this phrase to explain to the company vice-president that you haven't heard from your boss since he left the office four days ago.

 

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Mister Micawber  +  615446 Fri, 19 Dec 08 11:35 PM
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'Flippant'?  I suppose it is used that way sometimes.  I think it can carry various overtones.  I can imagine, for instance, a murder suspect saying that of the victim.
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