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Tue, 12 Feb 08 05:06 PM
Ethanw“ Please excuse me for bringing your attention back to this iossue. But I am somehow confused.
I believe that some of the grammar books insist that non-living things should not use apostrophy form for possesive. Instead, the *** of *** shall be used. Apparently many do, but the rule is not valid.
For example, you can't say : the company's contacts, but the contacts of the company. Maybe the rule is no longer good in modern English. It's not. How about "the western coast of America"? Do you say "America's western coast"? You certainly can. And can we say "the Korea's Republic" for "the Republic of Korea"? No, you don't change a proper name.
"The human rights' bill" for "Bill of human rights"? No, you don't change a proper name. ”
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Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random!
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Yoong Liat
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Tue, 12 Feb 08 08:16 PM
Ethanw“ Please excuse me for bringing your attention back to this iossue. But I am somehow confused. I believe that some of the grammar books insist that non-living things should not use apostrophy form for possesive. Instead, the *** of *** shall be used. For example, you can't say : the company's contacts, but the contacts of the company. Maybe the rule is no longer good in modern English. How about "the western coast of America"? Do you say "America's western coast"? And can we say "the Korea's Republic" for "the Republic of Korea"? "The human rights' bill" for "Bill of human rights"? ”
Should be 'apostrophe'. I would say "the western coast of America" and "the Republic of Korea' .
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Anonymous,
1 yr 349 days ago
Can I just clarify this point please.It was said earlier that the
apostrophe is used before the "S" if indicating possession. Miss/Mrs
/Ms fanning ( I assume ) own the house so why is it not Fanning's house? Also why does it now matter how many people live in the house- which is it possession OR plural/singular that matters? Thanks
Anonymous,
1 yr 312 days ago
I disagree, it is certainly not correct to write or say the house's roof. The correct form in this case is surely the roof of the house or alternatively the house roof. You would never say the cellar's door instead of cellar door or table's top instead of table top, would you? In the case of the company, it may be considered to be personified, in which case, the use of the genetive seems justifiable. I remember being taught that moments in time could also be used with the apostrophy, hence yesterday's news.
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Tue, 06 May 08 01:33 PM
There are several threads in which this is discussed. I won't argue about it any more. If you find "the house's roof" to be incorrect, don't use it.
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Anonymous,
1 yr 192 days ago
Possessive Use If you are using a singular noun to indicate possession, use an apostrophe before the "s." If you are using a plural noun, use an apostrophe after the "s." - Instead of: Both neighbors dogs barked all night long.
- Consider: Both neighbors' dogs barked all night long.
- Instead of: Ice hockey is Toms favorite sport.
- Consider: Ice hockey is Tom's favorite sport.
(NOUN MEANS - PERSON, PLACE, THING, OR IDEA) - meaining that you would use an apostrophy for non-living things as well...
THIS IS BY WAY OF MICROSOFT WORD..HOPE THIS HELPS
Anonymous,
1 yr 105 days ago
It should be: Ohara's Kitchen
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