Anonymous:
Is it proper to use the word with after proficient? I.E. Proficient WITH technical manuals or do you have to use Proficient IN techncianl manuals.
Hello Anon

1. Proficient with X

This usually implies that X is an instrument, e.g. "proficient with an axe", "proficient with firearms", etc.

2. Proficient in X

This usually implies that X is a skill or a discipline, e.g. "proficient in using Google", "proficient in martial arts", etc.

In your example, "proficient with technical manuals" seems to suggest that the person uses technical manuals as an instrument (perhaps for hitting IT helpdesk operatives with).

On the other hand, "proficient in technical manuals" suggests he has a wide knowledge of technical manuals, which is probably not your intended meaning.

Perhaps "proficient in writing technical manuals" would do the trick!

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Anonymous:
Can one say that a person has "proficient computer skills" or is it preferable to say that they are "proficient with computers"?
LF
Thank you
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AnonymousCan one say that a person has "proficient computer skills" or is it preferable to say that they are "proficient with computers"?
LF
Hello LF,

The person, not the skills, are "proficient". (The level of skill is what makes the person "proficient".)

Best wishes,

MrP
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Anonymous:
Dear MrP,
Then, can I write "I am proficient in English and computer skills"?
Rs.
Anonymous:
Or could you approach it from a different angle? I am currently trying to get it right to and i have another way to state the term. i want to say proficient in computing or proficient with computers but could it also be. I am computer proficient.

If anyone can add to that will be good Emotion: smile
I am computer proficient.

This is OK, but pretty vague.
eg Can you build one?
eg Can you program one?
eg Can you use various kinds of software applications?

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