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Anonymous  +  142839 Thu, 29 Sep 05 06:05 AM

detain v. detention

abstain v. abstention

this transform from the verb form to the noun form is kind of alien to me.

Hope someone can give more examples to try to complement this category of words.

tks

Mister Micawber  +  143275 Fri, 30 Sep 05 02:54 PM

It is not a contemporary transformation, Anon.  Such cases result from separate forms far back in the history of the language, or are a result of derivation from different forms of e.g. Latin words.

For example, I see from my dictionary that abstain and abstention both came from L. abstinere, but abstain worked its way through Middle French (abstenir) and Middle English (absteinen) before and during the 14th century, while abstention was taken directly from the Latin a century later.

Detain and detention seem to have arrived in English at about the same time (15th c), but came from different forms of the Latin word:  detain from detinere and detention from detentio.

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CalifJim  +  143527 Sat, 01 Oct 05 07:38 AM
As Mr. Micawber has mentioned, this transform is no longer productive in modern English.
There are hundreds of such Latin roots which occur in such pairs.  It would probably be impractical to try to learn all the patterns.  Nevertheless, if that sort of thing interests you, you might try keeping a list of verb-noun-pair patterns together with the particular verbs which fall into each pattern.

Some roots remain the same, simply adding "tion" (compact, compaction), but there are many possible patterns.
You may find these interesting.  Some add a syllable with "a" before adding "tion"; some add the "tion" or "sion" right after the verb root.  Most often all the verbs with the same root, but different prefixes, all form the noun the same way.

direct, direction (correct)
translate, translation (promote)
combine, combination (exhale, commute, permute)
condemn, condemnation (affirm, transport)
receive, reception (deceive)  (eiv > ep)
redeem, redemption (eem > emp)
decide, decision (d > s)
erode, erosion (d > s)
conclude, conclusion (d > s)
expand, expansion (d > s)
exclaim, exclamation (ai > a)
pronounce, pronunciation (ou > u) (announce, denounce)
conjoin, conjunction (oin > unc)
reduce, reduction (produce, deduce, induce)
expel, expulsion (repel, compel, propel) (el > ul)
admit, admission (it > iss) (permit, commit, submit)  [dismiss, dismissal!]
repeat, repetition (ea > e)  (adds "ition", not the more usual "ation")
apply, application (y > ica) (comply *, reply *, imply)  (*The verb and the noun have little in common where meaning is concerned!)
acquire, acquisition (r > s) (require)

How many more can you find?  Smile [:)]

CJ




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