Peaceblinkfriend  +  761487 Tue, 02 Jun 09 08:13 AM Hi all Is this grammatical? We should never appreciate this kind of tastelessness and vulgarity which some might justify as we being laid-back. Thank you PBF Peaceblinkfriend Joined on Wed, May 9 2007 Senior Member 2,130 Success - it is not the position where you are standing, but which direction you are going.

	Avangi  +  761617 Tue, 02 Jun 09 10:17 AM Yes, it's grammatical!  "Our being laid-back" might be a bit easier to swallow. I'd make the "which" clause non-essential by placing a comma after "vulgarity."  Some might consider the essential version incorrect from a symantic point of view, but I don't think it's a grammar issue. "Appreciate" is the wrong word, in terms of my understanding and use of it.  I know people say things like, "I don't appreciate your using obscenities in front of my children," but I think that's lower register. I'd say, "We should never condone this kind of etc." Avangi Joined on Mon, Nov 19 2007 Veteran Member 8,211 ". . . le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile." - Henri de Regnier Clauses, Commas, Punctuation, Writing

	Clive  +  761805 Tue, 02 Jun 09 01:37 PM Hi, The implication is that we are commenting on the conduct of other people, and not on our own conduct.   So, I'd say  . . .  which some might justify as we (their) being laid-back. I wouldn't bother with saying 'their'.   Best wishes, Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,679 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo

	Avangi  +  762614 Wed, 03 Jun 09 01:02 AM That's a great simplifcation, Clive.  It reads much better.  I had taken the "we" as meaning we as a group, but it did seem strange, and out of character with the rest of the sentence. Avangi Sentences