Mike in Japan  +  78206 Thu, 03 Mar 05 11:45 PM I agree wholeheartedly! Mike in Japan Joined on Tue, Aug 19 2003 Senior Member 4,371 I do like to be beside the seaside

	Elena  +  78295 Fri, 04 Mar 05 08:28 AM abc123 says: Iraq is now a free country Free... All what I see watching the news everyday is people dying, not only soldiers, also civilians, not only British and Americans, also lots of Iraqis, destruction, and no end. Elena Joined on Thu, Jul 31 2003 Regular Member 827 Enjoying my English study

	matthewg  +  78424 Fri, 04 Mar 05 05:14 PM I agree that the Iraqi people aren't yet free, in the real sense of the word. But I don't think that there isn't going to be an end to the violence. You mentioned that your source of information is the tv news. News channels such as the BBC have been heavily criticised for giving too much importance to bad news and underreporting anything else. I can understand that this sort of exposure pushes people away from a vision of a better future for the country. matthewg Joined on Mon, Sep 6 2004 Full Member 395

	abbie1948  +  85155 Wed, 30 Mar 05 05:28 PM It is good to read an Iraqi point of view here. It was my suspiscion that the current violence is being perpetrated by supporters of the old regime, perhaps with enlisted support from beyond Iraq's borders. I agree that the election, however flawed, can only be good for the people of Iraq, and hope they will be able to sort things out for themselves and become self-determining. My major concern ( a little off topic) is that this was not the reason given for going to war. (or "conflict", as I believe the politicians prefer to call it.) I wonder if things would have been different, and more public support generated had we been told that the object was to topple the tyrant and free the people of Iraq from his dominance? How many really believed the stories of WMD and the 45 minute claim? I should really like to know from Guest whether he/she feels there might have been another way to topple Sadaam which did not involve such massive bombing, destruction and loss of life. And I would really like to know whether anyone feels there would have been more support if we had been confident from the outset that the conflict was designed to topple a cruel dictator, and not a hunt for WMDs. I have no basis for this, but I have never believed that Iraq had anything to do with Al Qaeda or Sept. 11th. abbie1948 Joined on Thu, Mar 24 2005 England Senior Member 2,657 Hope that helps. Abbie

	IamAmérica  +  208247 Wed, 22 Mar 06 12:20 AM Certainly NOT, I think that no system should be imposed, specially by foreign force, each country should solve their political problems on their own, doesn't matter how long it takes. Anything that comes out from the end of the barrel of a gun doesn't last. IamAmérica Joined on Sun, Feb 5 2006 Indiana, U.S. of N.A. New Member 20

	Lazarus  +  209166 Fri, 24 Mar 06 01:11 PM  IamAmérica wrote: Certainly NOT, I think that no system should be imposed, specially by foreign force, each country should solve their political problems on their own, doesn't matter how long it takes. While I agree with you in theory, IAA, I can't agree with you in practice.  It's a fine line to walk, granted, but there are times when foreign powers need to become involved in a country's problems.  Sometimes those problems (and I'm not necessarily including Iraq here, as I'm unsure) are set to affect the rest of the world. Regards-- Lazarus Lazarus Joined on Wed, Sep 28 2005 U.S. Full Member 285 Regards

	Mike in Japan  +  209884 Mon, 27 Mar 06 02:29 AM Well, more than twelve months has passed since this thread was started, and many things have become clearer during those months. I'm now not so sure, to put it mildly, that Western involvement in Iraq, and the subsequent elections,  were such a good thing at all. One thing that now really worries me, is that we may be having a similar discussion about Iran before too long. Mike in Japan

	Levia  +  301439 Thu, 07 Dec 06 06:09 AM The election is not the most important point on the way to the democrocy. The aim of election is to select the proper person who can achieve a contry and a nation. The person should work hard on the behalf of his/her people. The election system are set up in most of the country. However, do these nations trully advance on the way to the democracy? We should focus on the outcome. The proceeding is not the most significant. If the elction in Iraq is genuinly done under the serious surveillance of UN, it is definitely welcomed by the world. Nevertheless, if the elcetion is aim to pose the democracy, we should split on the election. There are various way to the democracy, it doesn't matther which way we are going to choose, the point is if the democracy is introduced? Levia Joined on Thu, Oct 12 2006 China Guangzhou Junior Member 71 One thousand days to learn; ten thousand days to refine.