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Newguest  #428002  Sat, 06 Oct 07 08:50 PM

Hello

1. In fact, the reactions of both groups were so intense that the experiment which was to have lasted for two weeks was broken off after six days.

WOULD IT BE OK IF I WROTE "...WHICH WAS TO LAST FOR TWO WEEKS..." INSTEAD OF "...WHICH WAS TO HAVE LASTED..."???

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EnglishRaven  #428053  Sat, 06 Oct 07 11:28 PM

Hi Newguest,

For a start, that sentence should really have commas around the inserted relative clause to show that the action that follows still applies to the main subject (experiment) - so:

In fact, the reactions of both groups were so intense that the experiment[,] which was to have lasted for two weeks[,] was broken off after six days.

Using "was to last" instead of "was to have lasted" sounds slightly strange to me in the new sentence. I think it is because the use of straight "was" sounds more definite, making the part that follows feel contradictory. "Was to have" shows me that it was the original plan that didn't come to pass. On the other hand, a word like "supposed" can do the same function more effectively, giving us either:

In fact, the reactions of both groups were so intense that the experiment[,] which was supposed to have lasted for two weeks[,] was broken off after six days.

or

In fact, the reactions of both groups were so intense that the experiment[,] which was supposed to last for two weeks[,] was broken off after six days.

Even there, the use of the perfect tense rings better for me in showing that it was an original planned action that did not happen, with the follow up information in simple past tense confirming the action that did happen instead.

Hope that helps,

Jason

  
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CalifJim  #428140  Sun, 07 Oct 07 07:53 AM
WOULD IT BE OK IF I WROTE .......
Yes, but, as discussed above, it would not convey as nicely the counterfactual aspect felt in the original was to have lasted.

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Newguest  #428181  Sun, 07 Oct 07 12:21 PM

Hi

thanks, I think it's quite clear to me now!

I understand that by using the present perfect tense we better covey the message that something was supposed to be done, or to happen but it didn't happen for instance.

  
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