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yyg.agenda  +  88786 Mon, 11 Apr 05 08:27 AM
I am a boy from China,and studing in hunan university.looking for friendship all over the world

Can you tell me something about youself? Expect we will be good friends.if possible.
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Anonymous, 4 yr 66 days ago

I can teach you Chinese, I'm a student in George Mason University,and of course I'm form China.

My E-mail address is <removed-mod>

Snowdream_j  +  141008 Fri, 23 Sep 05 02:39 PM

Hi, this topic really interests me 'cuz I'm one of the Chinese you're talkin' aboutSmile [:)]  But it's so nice of you to see so many merits in Chinese. Also, I would like to say, we're all the same, no matter where we're born. Please don't think Chinese are somehow "unique", well, every single person is unique, right? The most important thing is--LOVE!

事事顺心! meaning, wish everything goes well with youSmile [:)] Best wishes from China.( esp. to HYTO) 

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Erciyesli  +  142674 Wed, 28 Sep 05 05:26 PM
chinese i think hardworking and living in crowded groups it is diffucult i think to live in chine but i want to ask you what do you think about wage paid to chinese workers is it enough to live there?
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Anonymous, 4 yr 48 days ago

I was born in chemas-microsoft-com:officeTongue Tied [:S]marttags" />t="on">China and lived there for 24 years before moving to t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Americalace>. Like most of the new migrants from mainland t="on">China, in the first few years, I could not bear any single criticism about t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Chinalace> or the Chinese people. I did not mind people criticizing me, but if anyone says something "bad" about t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Chinalace> (or the Chinese), I went crazy.

After 17 years living, studying and working in t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Americalace>, having met people from all over the world, I finally realize that this world is full of people with different ideas. It is OK that there are people that do not agree with us. Those people are still "good people"!

Why do the majority of Chinese take criticism so offensive?

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Well, not my grandparents. My grandparents (and their schoolmates) are the best people I have ever met in this world. They put other people’s interest first. They are humble, caring, generous, forgiving. They only blame themselves whenever things go wrong.

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I can never be such a great person like them. When I was young, everyone (teachers, the books, TV) told us that our government is the greatest, most respected and correct (the only one) in the world. So we believed we never make mistakes. We believed that our country and our people are holy.  If anyone ever dares to question that, he/she is in great trouble!

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Most likely we never question. We believed what we were told. We did not know that in other parts of the world, people think differently, and still live well!

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About 15 years ago in a dinner party, a few American friends asked me about my opinion on our government regarding a political issue. My first reaction was that they were expecting me to criticize “my” government. Unfortunate, I was not yet an “independent thinking individual” at that time. My instinct told me to stand on “my country’s” side so that they cannot make fun of me. I tried to say something good about our government, but found that I knew nothing about that issue at all. So I said: “No comment.”

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They were very surprised: “Why do you speak like that government?”

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Why? I ask myself for years.

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I didn’t even know which issue they were talking about. I didn’t know that I should ask them “What happened? Tell me more about it.” I never cared what people think about us. I just wanted to make sure they mention the good things. If they did not, I would argue. If they still didn’t, I would… I would do anything.

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Why?

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Because we were told that our government protects our country and our people. Because we were told that our government is the greatest, most respected and the only correct party on earth, later we think that we Chinese are the greatest, most respected and the only correct people in the world.

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We were told that there are “a few evil people” in overseas trying to take over the power of our government, to take us back to the miserable old days (those days we were invaded by the 8 western countries and the Japanese). These people are from the western countries and t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Taiwanlace>. They do harms to our country by spreading the bad words of we Chinese, in that way they can isolate us from all other countries in the world. We should never let them do so.

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Doesn’t that sound funny?

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Well, we didn’t think so. We took them so seriously that we could fight for it, we could die for it.

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We believed our government’s enemies are our enemies. We believed the way we treat our enemies is to kill them without mercy (unless we can brainwash them then use them). We believed killing is wrong, but killing enemies is right.

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We were told not to listen to the enemies – because we could be influenced by our enemies. In fact, we should not listen to any different opinions at all, as anything other than what our government told us are false, and with evil intention.  All we needed to keep in mind is: listen to our government, do what our government says, aware of enemies and their criticizing words.

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When we grow up, we cannot recall why we get mad when someone criticize “the Chinese”.

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The worst thing is, nearly no one realize we were brainwashed.

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And guess what most mainlanders from t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Chinalace> think about this article?

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“Kill him!” “*#&%, you lose our face!” “Betrayer! You are not a Chinese!” 

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I thought I was not a typical Chinese, until one day I found this website. It tells me that I am actually a REAL Chinese – one with traditional value, one believes in being a better person, one believes in “self-criticizing three times a day”.

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So where are the other traditional Chinese?

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Well, they hardly exist in mainland t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Chinalace> any more. But you can still find some in Hong Kong, lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">t="on">Macau, t="on">Taiwanlace>, or even overseas, though they are significantly westernized.

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If you are not a Chinese but want to know more about t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Chinalace>, english.epochtimes.com might be a good point to start from.

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If you are a Chinese from mainland and hate me for “spreading the bad words around”, you are most likely under 30 years old, just left China for less than 3 years or never make close friends with people from other ethnic groups. You really should go to www.epochtime.com to see what had happened in t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Chinalace> before you were born - something that nobody told you in the past. Please read at least 10 articles – you don’t have to agree to all of them. Just find out what other people think. It’s time to learn how to handle with criticism.  Be mature. Learn to form your own judgment.

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If you are from mainland t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Chinalace> between 40-65 years old, you know the history better than I do. If you did not kill anyone in those horrible years (of course you didn’t, or you wouldn’t have been able to read English), you might be the one nearly get killed. God bless you.

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If you are between 30-40 years old, left t="on">lace wTongue Tied [:S]t="on">Chinalace> for more than 10 years but still hate me, were you a member of the Communist party?  

Einai  +  148396 Sun, 16 Oct 05 01:24 PM

 Ruthhao wrote:

"face" means Chinese care what they look like in others' eyes.

right. chinese want to be successful, smart, generous even rich or powerful in other people's eyes, although sometimes we don't really are. once a chinese is found being inferior to others, he or she will feel "losing face", on the opposite it's "saving face".  if a boy gets good marks in school, or he entered a famous university, his parents may feel saving face. if a daughter marry a poor guy, her parents even her grandparents will certainly feel losing face. that's it. hope i have explained clearly.

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Einai  +  148404 Sun, 16 Oct 05 02:04 PM

 Guest wrote:
Floral, I was just expressing what impression they give me. As I mentioned before, I have nothing against Chinese people. At the end of the day, I know I could very well be mistaken. I'm sorry if I caused any offence, but also, I think you need to learn to take criticism a little better, and think about what people are saying to you, instead of automatically becoming defensive at the first sign of negativity towards something that you're a part of. What do you think about my comment? Is there any truth in it at all, from your point of view? (Forget the word "snobby" right now, what I'm asking you is, do you think that, in general, the Chinese do tend to stick to eachother? Or do you think that they mix well with others?) If you feel even the tiniest fraction of agreement, then maybe you can understand why I got that impression. Like I said, it probably is just a cultural misunderstanding, so maybe you could clear that up for me?

never mind buddy! i'm a chinese guy and i like your direct way. but most of chinese speak in a much more indirect and gentle way. usually we don't criticize other people directly. that will cause the feeling of "losing face"Big Smile [:D]

Einai, 4 yr 42 days ago
i guess floral should try to learn to be more brave and sensible
chenyj  +  150758 Sun, 23 Oct 05 06:46 AM
 

I am a Chinese. First of all, thank you for expressing your thoughts towards Chinese people.

Then I will say something. I don’t think Chinese people are quite different from the people live in other countries. We like peace, show sympathy to the poor, learn from the other countries, and work hard to gain a more wealthy life The reason why so many people consider Chinese people as a mystery is that they do not familiar with Chinese people. I know that many people’s understandings of China still stay in the 1960’s or even earlier. What’s more, a part of people knows China through the films directed by Zhang Yimou. That’s terrible!!!! If you want to know Chinese people better, the best way, as Floral said, is to come to China yourselves.

In addition, the ABCs (abroad born Chinese) is more or less different from the natives.
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