Monseul  +  193129 Mon, 06 Feb 06 07:53 AM My students asked me whether or not this tense is commonly used.  I said it's hardly ever used.   Agree or disagree? Thanks. Monseul Joined on Thu, Oct 20 2005 Junior Member 53 Tenses, Perfect Progressive

	Mister Micawber  +  193139 Mon, 06 Feb 06 08:55 AM By this time next month, I will have been living in Japan for precisely 16 years. I agree that it is not much used, but when it is needed, it is certainly useful.  It offers a graphic view from the future. Mister Micawber Joined on Wed, Aug 4 2004 Yokohama Veteran Member 30,802 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master-- that's all.' Perfect Progressive

	Philip  +  193277 Mon, 06 Feb 06 04:49 PM  Mister Micawber wrote: By this time next month, I will have been living in Japan for precisely 16 years. I agree that it is not much used, but when it is needed, it is certainly useful.  It offers a graphic view from the future. Useful, indeed.  I hear it used by many people who wouldn't be able to identify what it is if their lives depended on it.  Philip Joined on Thu, Jun 23 2005 Veteran Member 8,737 At reise er at leve! - H. C. Andersen Perfect Progressive

	Monseul  +  194870 Fri, 10 Feb 06 01:35 AM By this time next month, I will have been living in Japan for precisely 16 years. Can the Future Perfect also be used with the sentence above to indicate the same meaning? By this time next month, I will have lived in Japan for precisely 16 years. Monseul Perfect Progressive

	milky  +  194922 Fri, 10 Feb 06 04:34 AM  Monseul wrote: By this time next month, I will have been living in Japan for precisely 16 years. Can the Future Perfect also be used with the sentence above to indicate the same meaning? By this time next month, I will have lived in Japan for precisely 16 years. It could be used, yes. milky Joined on Thu, Jan 15 2004 Senior Member 3,149 Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought". Perfect Progressive