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Taka  +  73424 Fri, 11 Feb 05 04:05 PM
Example
his astonishment when she asked him to merry her.


As in the example above, is it possible to make

the job I had when I was young


into

the job when I was young


?
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just the truth, 4 yr 284 days ago
Certainly, Taka, if there was enough context to support it.
Taka, 4 yr 284 days ago
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Taka  +  73429 Fri, 11 Feb 05 04:38 PM
So, any noun can be modified by a 'when' clause? Or is there any exception?
just the truth  +  73502 Sat, 12 Feb 05 03:12 AM
Example
his astonishment when she asked him to merry her.

As in the example above, is it possible to make

the job I had when I was young

into

the job when I was young

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Taka: So, any noun can be modified by a 'when' clause? Or is there any exception?

JT: I don't know for sure, Taka. Certainly not when it doesn't make sense semantically.

You almost certainly understood my previous comments, but just to clarify for those that might not have,

"the job when I was young" would be relatively common in speaking if and when the context had already been set. Such ellipted sentences are, of course, much less likely to happen in writing.

An example;

A:I've only had two jobs in my life, one in a gold mine when I was young and this one.

B: Which one's better.

A: The job when I was young.
Taka  +  73525 Sat, 12 Feb 05 07:08 AM
Certainly not when it doesn't make sense semantically.


Could you give me such an example?
MrPedantic  +  73605 Sun, 13 Feb 05 03:05 AM
Hello Taka

Perhaps 'eternity' is a word that can't be modified by a 'when' clause.

MrP
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Mister Micawber  +  73610 Sun, 13 Feb 05 03:24 AM

So, any noun can be modified by a 'when' clause? Or is there any exception?


It works, but, according to some, not well, with time measures themselves:

The year when I was born. (?)-- s/b: the year that I was born.
The day when I saw you last. (?) -- s/b: the day that I saw you last. etc.

Other cases:

In the movie when the boy kisses the girl (?)
It's the time when I should take my medicine (?)


This is English-- there are bound to be exceptions... if only we can think of them.
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Taka  +  73680 Sun, 13 Feb 05 03:19 PM
Perhaps 'eternity' is a word that can't be modified by a 'when' clause.


That's understandable. Great example. Thank you, MM!
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