Where does the expression "extreme prejudice" originate and how is is used?
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OED's description

c. to terminate (dismiss, etc.) with extreme prejudice: to kill, to assassinate. Hence termination with extreme prejudice. U.S. slang.

[1972 B. F. Conners Don't embarrass Bureau (1973) ii. 99] "A few years ago when he wanted an agent out of the organization he ended up dismissing him with extreme prejudice." "You mean he had him killed?" Ted nodded. [1974 W. Garner Big enough Wreath x. 123] "There is no question of anyone killing anybody." "There is. I'm asking it. Terminate with extreme prejudice?" [1974 F. Nolan Oskawa Project xvi. 105] Had he been taken out by his own people? He had seen some of those files with the brutal red block letters stamped diagonally across the page: Terminate with extreme prejudice. [1980 C. Pincher Dirty Tricks i. 10] A 'termination with extreme prejudice', as the CIA called its assassination projects in those days.

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c. to terminate (dismiss, etc.) with extreme prejudice: to kill, to assassinate. Hence termination with extreme prejudice. U.S. slang.

[1972 B. F. Conners Don't embarrass Bureau (1973) ii. 99] "A few years ago when he wanted an agent out of the organization he ended up dismissing him with extreme prejudice." "You mean he had him killed?" Ted nodded. [1974 W. Garner Big enough Wreath x. 123] "There is no question of anyone killing anybody." "There is. I'm asking it. Terminate with extreme prejudice?" [1974 F. Nolan Oskawa Project xvi. 105] Had he been taken out by his own people? He had seen some of those files with the brutal red block letters stamped diagonally across the page: Terminate with extreme prejudice. [1980 C. Pincher Dirty Tricks i. 10] A 'termination with extreme prejudice', as the CIA called its assassination projects in those days.

paco

OK. Thanks for that. Is it being used in the present war in Iraq?

Milky
OK. Thanks for that. Is it being used in the present war in Iraq?

I believe the Iraq war has nothing to do with grammar questions. If we continue our discussion in this aspect, obviously, moderators will move this question to 'Controversial Subjects' forum, again.
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Milky
OK. Thanks for that. Is it being used in the present war in Iraq?

I believe the Iraq war has nothing to do with grammar questions. If we continue our discussion in this aspect, obviously, moderators will move this question to 'Controversial Subjects' forum, again.

Is this forum only for grammar questions? Are we not allowed to ask about vocabulary and expressions regarding etymology and present use? Language in time of war often changes or new terms surface. Knowing how such language is used in educational. This is an educational forum. If I read the paper and come across such terms as "theater of war" and such

Tell me how I can understand a film or book, maybe a news item, with war as the context with out understanding the meaning of the acronyms here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/vietnam/trenches/language.html

Also, if one is interested in language and its use, one can discuss and learn about how war language filters across to our daily context to be used metaphorically:

Mayor Defends New Budget.” “Media Blitz Saves Kidnapped Girl.” “Farmers Battle Summer Drought.” “Browser War Heats Up.” “Champ’s Left Hook Right on Target.”

It's all educational and fascinating.

NB: No one has yet made a politcial comment or given an opinion on the negative or positive aspects of using a term like "extreme prejudice", so please, try to focus on the linguistic interests of this thread.
Rishonly
Milky
OK. Thanks for that. Is it being used in the present war in Iraq?

I believe the Iraq war has nothing to do with grammar questions. If we continue our discussion in this aspect, obviously, moderators will move this question to 'Controversial Subjects' forum, again.

So, it has been moved, and probably due to your comments. Such comments only serve to deny opportunity to those who would like to learn something about war language, which appears daily in the media world over.

I am disappointed by your need to push everything that makes you uncomfortable to a comfort zone. I am also disappointed that the moderators here have decided to place the thread here when it has, as yet, not shown any inkling of being a controversial topic,
Although the members who have so far contributed to this thread are interested solely in linguistic matters, any discussion of the use of phrases such as "extreme prejudice" in "the present war in Iraq" will inevitably attract non-linguistic interest.

I've therefore moved this thread to Controversial Subjects.

Apologies for the inconvenience. Anyone who wishes to complain should contact the webmaster.

MrP
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MrPedanticAlthough the members who have so far contributed to this thread are interested solely in linguistic matters, any discussion of the use of phrases such as "extreme prejudice" in "the present war in Iraq" will inevitably attract non-linguistic interest.

I've therefore moved this thread to Controversial Subjects.

Apologies for the inconvenience. Anyone who wishes to complain should contact the webmaster.

MrP

<Anyone who wishes to complain should contact the webmaster.> I'll do just that. Thanks.
Milky
Rishonly
Milky
OK. Thanks for that. Is it being used in the present war in Iraq?

I believe the Iraq war has nothing to do with grammar questions. If we continue our discussion in this aspect, obviously, moderators will move this question to 'Controversial Subjects' forum, again.

So, it has been moved, and probably due to your comments. Such comments only serve to deny opportunity to those who would like to learn something about war language, which appears daily in the media world over.

I am disappointed by your need to push everything that makes you uncomfortable to a comfort zone. I am also disappointed that the moderators here have decided to place the thread here when it has, as yet, not shown any inkling of being a controversial topic,

MrP's explanation would simply answer all your questions.
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