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Anonymous, 1 yr 76 days ago
Espanhol is spelled Espa(n with an accent above it)ol

ESPANOL

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joeyayoub  +  572342 Wed, 01 Oct 08 10:48 PM
Contrary to popular beliefs, Japanese is easy. The tricky part is reading and writing but that's because of all the Kanjis, the third Japanese writing system. Arabic and Russian aren't hard either, but one has to practice them daily before mastering them. I'm Lebanese so Arabic is one of my native languages (Alongside French and English) although I stopped Arabic because I wanted to learn Spanish instead. Anyway,  we shouldn't count the minor languages because they are too hard for anyone to learn. You have to grow into them or else you can't understand a word they're saying, like the Inuits for example. Out of the famous languages, I think Thai is the most complicated language to learn. It has a lot of similar sounds (About 60 ways to say Cai I think). Traditional Chinese is very very hard as well but not impossible, many people are learning Chinese (and Japanese) nowadays. Russian isn't easy but it isn't very hard either. My Tennis Teacher learned Russian on his own (his wife is Russian).

I guess it's all relative. I mean Spanish is harder for an American or a Russian than it is for a French or Italian. It's been a year since I started Spanish and I can already understand most of the time, I still have trouble creating sentences but just another year would do it. Similarly, Japanese is hard for a westerner than it is for a Chinese. Not because they are similar (except for the Kanjis, which litteraly mean Chinese Characters) but because they have more similarities than with Western languages.

I speak and write 3 languages (Arabic, French and English). I understand Spanish and little of Japanese, I'm currently learning both languages.
I plan on learning Mandarin Chinese, Italian, Sign Languages and maybe Latin as well (I love languages), which me good luck.

Joey Ayoub Smile
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Anonymous, 1 yr 55 days ago
I think it is India.because you have to learn about how to write with the different of letter and try to speak with the dialect.  
richard_s  +  573928 Tue, 07 Oct 08 01:31 AM
Surely this depends on your native language.  Obviously, French is easy enough to learn for English speakers, whereas it is just as hard as English for a Chinese speaker.
I see no reason for thinking that Russian is a particularly hard language to learn; the grammar patterns are no more difficult than other Slavic languages.  Japanese is of course hard to learn to read and write; it is impossible to remember all of the Kanji, but the language is not hard to learn to speak.  I speak it quite well.  Chinese on the other hand, suffers from an innumerable number of characters to learn to read and write (remember, in Japanese you can use hiragana instead of Kanj), and it has all of those different tones to learn to pronounce.
But then, one shouldn't forget English.  The spelling is so irregular, that it is almost as hard as learning Japanese kanji, the grammar is irregular, and the complexity of the word forms is quite daunting.
'Empires of the Word' has an interesting discussion on this topic.  I forget the author's name - Nic O....
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Anonymous, 1 yr 7 days ago
I would strongly disagreee with Hoa Thai's assertion that French is relatively easy to learn and that is it spelled as it is sounded.  It most certainly is not. There are loads of homophones in the language. For instance the 'ay' sound can be represented by the spellings 'ai', 'ais', ait', 'e' with an acute accent, infinitive 'er', 'es', 'et', 'ez'  and probably some other combinations that I can't think of just now. If this isn't confusing and non-phonetic then I don't know what is. Also, the fact that most final consonants, even some final double consonants, are not pronounced must make for confusion, eg the non-pronunciation of the final 's', except when followed by a liaising vowel, must account for uncertainty as to whether a singular or plural is being talked about.  And to think the French protect all this stuff with an Academy!

The knowledge that I would never really understand spoken French made me stop  learning it. Give me an honest,  phonetic language any time, eg German. I would disagree though  with Hoa Thai's assertion that the gender of words is hard to learn;  I never had much trouble with that part of the language and although it is one more gender than English it is still one less than German and the Slavonic languages, at least.

Ampus 




Anonymous, 345 days ago
slovak and czech, all slavonic languages r difficult
Anonymous, 335 days ago
I would agree that Slavonic languages are not easy. I am Czech and sometimes I think that punctuation in Czech is just rediculously complicated. Not many Czech people can right correctly!!! Grammar is equally tough even for natives. Speaking it is one thing but writing it as it should be is different matter all together.
I speak English, Swedish and Finnish. The last one is the most difficult for me without any doubt. But it depends on what makes the language in question difficult to different people. For me, Finnish is tough because of its vocabulary that doesn´t resemble anything I have known so far. Just learning the most basic words has been taking me like forever. Swedish on the other hand has been a breeze. (Maybe I was a Swede in past lifeWink). For people who have some of the Slavonic languages as their mother tongue might be pronounciation of English or some of the Nordic languages an issue. But people have different talents also when it comes to fonetics. Somebody learns in a year, somebody speaks awfully after 20 years (when I hear Ivana Trump speaking English I have to grinn). On the other hand I find personally pronounciation of Italian, German, Spanish and even Portugese and Japanese pretty stright forward, melodic and easy.
So it depends a lot what area in language learning represents the biggest obstacle for everybody. I can take complicated grammar, all the exceptions in it, rigid structure in sentense making, but pronounciation and awkwardness of vocabulary are discouraging to me if they are too difficult to overcome. For somebody else it may be the other way around.
Cool Breeze  +  622528 Fri, 26 Dec 08 04:51 PM

Anonymous
“I speak English, Swedish and Finnish. The last one is the most difficult for me without any doubt. But it depends on what makes the language in question difficult to different people. For me, Finnish is tough because of its vocabulary that doesn´t resemble anything I have known so far. Just learning the most basic words has been taking me like forever. Swedish on the other hand has been a breeze.

I share many of your views in that for some languages with a complicated grammar are easy  -  or at least easier than other languages  -  whereas some others find languages with hardly any grammar a breeze. Smile There are also those who see no particular difference in the difficulty. I remember my school days and some students who never learned the conjugation of German adjectives. Some never learned to pronounce English understandably. A friend of mine who had great difficulty with English pronunciation nevertheless acquired a large enough vocabulary to be able to read a few dozen scientific books in English. He needed that to pass his exams at Helsinki University.

If I hadn't seen that myself, I would never have believed it was possible! He had nothing and no one to support him! He couldn't hear anyone pronounce the words the way he pronounced them anywhere! Yet his vocabulary consisted of thousands of words! His achievement convinced me that as far as a language is concerned, nothing is impossible.

As for natives not knowing the grammar of their own language, Finns are an excellent example. Educated news reporters make mistakes with seemingly simple things like the comparison of adjectives almost every day on television and radio. Mind you, the difference between a plural comparative and a plural superlative can be reversing two letters in the middle of a six-syllable adjective, but I still think anyone with an academic education should get it right.

Another thing they never learn is ordinals. I think one Finn out of ten would be able to say correctly "I'm telling you for the 638th time." Most don't even try! All of the three digits (6, 3 and 8) have to be inflected correctly.

I wish you a lot of success in your efforts to learn Finnish! Yes

CB

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Kooyeen  +  625057 Sun, 28 Dec 08 09:49 PM
It just depends what people mean when they say "learn" or "know" a language. Maybe we should consider "learning curves" if we really want to discuss whether a certain language is difficult or not... the problem is the learning curves would depend on the learners' native languages too. 

Every language is very difficult to learn if you want to reach a native level of understanding, but how steep the learning curve is is another matter.
English is tricky because it seems easy at the beginning, so it's relatively easy to reach a decent level (Hello. How are you? Is this yours? Are these yours?). The curve seems to get steep only later (Difference between gleam, glint, glitter, glisten, glimmer, shimmer? Pants or trousers or underpants... in the UK or the US? Give up, give in, put out, put up with... meaningless verbs and adverbs put together!) On the other hand, languages like Chinese and Japanese seem to have a steep learning curve at the beginning too: writing one single character or sentence seems enough to give me a headache.

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