[title]Family quotes[/title] [description]Welcome to our family quotes section! Here you'll find some of the funniest (and wisest) quotes on the subject of family life![/description]
Learn English and meet people on the world’s largest EFL social network

We have partnered with TradePub to bring you free industry magazines and resources - no coupons or credit cards required!

Visit: englishforums.tradepub.com


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Share this topic:
Anonymous, 3 yr 41 days ago

what about this

The title of salutatorian goes to whomever/whoever   has the second highest academic average.

Anonymous, 3 yr 41 days ago
Whom/Who did  you say this package was for?
MrPedantic  +  282420 Wed, 18 Oct 06 12:27 AM
 Anonymous wrote:

what about this

The title of salutatorian goes to whomever/whoever   has the second highest academic average.

Would you like to try first, Anon?

MrP

Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004
Veteran Member 12,592
...opella forensis / adducit febris...
Anonymous, 3 yr 40 days ago

in fact now i realized that I'm ok with that one

The title of salutatorian goes to whoever   has the second highest academic average.

(correct me if i'm wrong)

But what about the second one: Whom/Who did  you say this package was for?

 

i'm soving some SAT prep. questions and the sentece is given like this:

Whom did  you say this package was for?

 and you should spot the mistake. i think that it's ok like this, but the answer is that whom is wrong.
J Lewis  +  282663 Wed, 18 Oct 06 02:22 PM
I've been wanting to start a thread on this "whomever" for a long time; I've seen "whomever" used a lot of times when it should have been "whoever", so I'm glad to see the question settled.
The British are less correct than the Americans on this point and rarely use "whom" and "whomever" in speech.
Joined on Tue, Sep 5 2006
Italy
Regular Member 518
MrPedantic  +  282835 Thu, 19 Oct 06 12:32 AM
 Anonymous wrote:

in fact now i realized that I'm ok with that one

The title of salutatorian goes to whoever   has the second highest academic average.

(correct me if i'm wrong)

Spot on.

But what about the second one: Whom/Who did  you say this package was for?

i'm soving some SAT prep. questions and the sentece is given like this:

Whom did  you say this package was for?

 and you should spot the mistake. i think that it's ok like this, but the answer is that whom is wrong.

Very few people would say "Whom...for?". "Who...for?" is certainly the normal usage. But I would not say that "whom" was "wrong"; simply unusual.

Did the question specify "ordinary usage"?

MrP

Diamondrg, 3 yr 39 days ago

So using 'whom' in speech marks one as non-native? Can you say it is best to reserve it for 'writing'?

J Lewis  +  282925 Thu, 19 Oct 06 08:09 AM
Certainly in BrE it's mainly reserved for writing. The use of "whom" sounds quite formal, but then formal people exist! It's up to you when and whether you relax the rules, but it's best to make this decision when you're living in daily contact with native speakers.
Anonymous, 3 yr 39 days ago
 MrPedantic wrote:
 Anonymous wrote:

in fact now i realized that I'm ok with that one

The title of salutatorian goes to whoever   has the second highest academic average.

(correct me if i'm wrong)

Spot on.

But what about the second one: Whom/Who did  you say this package was for?

i'm soving some SAT prep. questions and the sentece is given like this:

Whom did  you say this package was for?

 and you should spot the mistake. i think that it's ok like this, but the answer is that whom is wrong.

Very few people would say "Whom...for?". "Who...for?" is certainly the normal usage. But I would not say that "whom" was "wrong"; simply unusual.

Did the question specify "ordinary usage"?

MrP

no , it didn't. in fact i think it's better to be more formal.

ok, thanks anyway Smile [:)]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
© MediaCet Ltd. 2009, v5.0.3616.28671. All content posted by our users is a contribution to the public domain, this does not include imported usenet posts.*
For web related enquires please contact us on webmaster@mediacet.com, status updates are available at status.mediacet.com.
*Usenet post removal: Use 'X-No-Archive'. You may not have understood that your posts would end up in the public domain. Please send proof of the poster's email, we will remove immediately.