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Guest,
6 yr 8 days ago
2pac was the only rapper out there u could feel him and see where he was comin from peace
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Guest,
6 yr 7 days ago
Has Got To Be Rakim.
As a rapper he was the First whos Lyrics and voice eclipsed the music (the beat) his voice was more important than the music.
His delivery has influenced all NY styled emcees to come after him.
Nas considered by most as One of the best of his time has always be compared to Rakim and any Rapper/emcee who has been compare to the R has taken it as the Highest compliment in True Hip-Hop circles.
R introduced 5% idealism, culture, or philosophies, or what ever you want to call it to a whole generation, and established their influence in Hip-Hop culture wich exist today "Wu-Tang".
Rs carrear is the sole product of his own talent; I say this becuase up until 1997 he had only been on one colaberation, Jodey Watley's "Friends".
With the exception of "True Master" he's never had a Wack album. Please check 1999s "The 18TH Letter" there is a song called "New York (Ya Out There)" if you are from NY or are just into NY style rap music at its best you will have to admit that this song is one of the best "MY Home Town" songs ever.
The Gangster Image Portrayed by B.I.G came straight from R.
No One Wore more Jewlery than R except maybe Slick Rick.
R first Rapper to sign a Million dollar recording contract.
R Drove Bentlys and MB in the 80s when other rappers drove Jettas.
R addressed Social and Political topics with raw simplicity. "Casulties of War"
"Know the Ledge" "Teach the Children"
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Fri, 21 Nov 03 12:42 AM
Yep, I'm with you on the Rakim front - genius (also De La, and a Tribe)
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Guest,
6 yr 3 days ago
Krayzie bone from bone thugs n harmony
Guest,
6 yr 1 days ago
TO ME THERES ONLY BIGGIE AND TUPAC. ALOT OF PEEPS KEEP SAYIN TUPAC BUT I THINK HE WAS NOT AN ALL ROUNDER. DONT GET ME WRONG IF WE R TALKING ABOUT ICONS THEN MAKAVELLI WINS HANDS DOWN BUT IN TERMS OF STRAIGHT OUT RAPPING IE. FLOWS DELIVERY WORDPLAY BIGGIE WAS THE BEST however the lyrical content of PAC cant b tested.
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Thu, 27 Nov 03 08:58 AM
I know a lot of you must be teenagers or whatever. Anyone who's followed rap since the old school days knows that ICE CUBE is the greatest rapper of all time. Without ICE CUBE, there would be NO Tupac and NO Biggie and NO DMX and NO Nas. See, ICE CUBE wrote ALL of the rap lyrics for N.W.A. While Dre made the music, Cube wrote his lyrics, Eazy's lyrics, Dre's lyrics and Ren's lyrics. HE INVENTED GANGSTA RAP.
ICE CUBE in the 80's wrote "Fuck the Police" and other songs that told stories about life in the hood....a lot like Tupac did 8 years later. He also wrote "Boyz N Tha Hood" and "Straight Outta Compton". He was the king. But if you're a teenager, I could see how you view 2Pac as the best and Ice Cube as an actor. 2Pac picked up where Cube left off.
Want an album that will blow your mind? Buy "DEATH CERTIFICATE" by Ice Cube.
The closest of all the posts above were the ones who said Rakim and KRS-One and Chuck D. All of them were bad ass. Take ICE CUBE + CHUCK D and you've got Tupac.
Tupac was ONE OF the best rappers ever, but Ice Cube was the original.
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Guest,
5 yr 354 days ago
I like the insight into the G.O.A.T. given by another guest in that there can never be one 'greatest'. Although i have studied Pac for the last 8 years and can say that flat out he beats any other rapper in terms of his impact on not only the rap game but also the way he stirred up the whole of white America at the time, i believe that all rappers are interdependant upon eachother (where would Pac be without kane, pharcyde, biggie, public enemy, dr-dre, ice-cube? the list goes on and on).
On the subject of lyrical content i'd say the only rapper on the same level as Pac is Escobar. These are the only two rappers who can really just say what they think almost without thinking and it comes out in rhyme form. Pac could address any subject and speak of it with a passion and energy found only in the rawest mc's.
Pac was an emotive rapper and would adapt his vocals and even his dialect to reflect the mood of a track and is one of the only rappers who maintained his passion and energy for the game. Many rappers think that frequency of release is a key part of the game, which may well be true, but alot of rappers like hova focused so much on the release of new material they lost direction. This is another aspect of the game where Tupac shines brighter than any other, cos in the 7 years of his rap career he managed to release 6 solo albums have one in production, made an Outlawz album and have enough material to supply us with another 7 years of regular releases, all without selling outfor a second. My hat's off to Pac!
Pac's music, poetry and all round creativity gave hope to millions and his estate is giving young black american children in particular the chance to expand their creativity, and his words are the inspiration for many talented individuals to make it in the rap game.
I guess i would say that Pac was the G.O.A.T. but he wouldn't have been where he is without the other rappers that helped him on his way.
Pac inspired and affected EVERY single rapper in the game in his life and death, people need to learn from Pac, all these fake ass rappers in the game strictly for the love of money are destroying what 2pac spent his life fighting for-(keep it real). Pac lived and died for the values of equality and if a rose can grow from the concrete then anything is possible. Pac had nothing and made it to being up there with Malcom and Martin in the fight for an anti prejudice america. So Pac was more than a rapper which i thik makes him the best. Don't just listen, learn from what pac is telling you. He didn't die for nothing, if you need to worship someone, fuck religeon pac is all the jesus you need.
I'm a rapper myself and at the age of 17 i have been inspired by pac to make it in the game and make a difference Pac is the greatest rapper of all time-but all respect due to all the others who came before and since pac and all the other fallen souljaz in the world of rap music.
Guest,
5 yr 346 days ago
Tupac was great as well as biggie but lets not forget about the complexity, and over all rhyming ability of big pun. He accomplished so much in the short time he had. Lyrically theres noboby like pun now or ever.
Guest,
5 yr 337 days ago
Don't look at just skill, or vocal talent when considering the greatest rapper, what's equally important is their influence on rap, and taking this into mind, I don't think many rappers approach the level of Dr. Dre. Not only was Dre around in the NWA days, but he was there with Snoop and Pac, then kept the West Coast movement going when Pac and Biggie left. Dre signed and produced the greatest vocal talent that rap has ever known (Sorry, there is just no way you can compare Nas to Eminem, Eminem is clearly the better of the two vocally). Dre is still influencing the game today, after a LONG career in the rap game, by producing many beats which 50 Cent, Eminem, and Obie Trice rap on. No other rapper can claim to be influential for as long as Dr. Dre. On top of all this, The Chronic and The Chronic 2001 are still benchmarks in great rap. Other rappers may be good, but Dr. Dre is simply the greatest.
Dre is Gay
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