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Believer  +  256451 Wed, 16 Aug 06 03:51 PM

Look at the sentence below please and tell me why the writer of this sentence made what looks to be a choice to modify the nouns with an indefinite article.

This essay contain a beginning paragraph, a middle paragraph and an ending paragraph.

Would it be wrong to modify them all with a definite article, like this? I feel very strongly and am pretty sure (Ha ha)  that there is only one beginning paragraph, one middle paragraph and one ending paragraph for this particular essay. 

This essay contain the beginning paragraph, the middle paragraph, and the ending paragraph.   

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Inchoateknowledge  +  256455 Wed, 16 Aug 06 03:57 PM
This is all very well, but begining paragraphs there are many.
The begining paragraph of each law in the civil code.


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Maple  +  256482 Wed, 16 Aug 06 04:36 PM

Could it help a little to read it this way?

This essay, just like many other short literary compositions, contains a beginning paragraph, a middle paragraph and an ending paragraph.

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Believer  +  256836 Thu, 17 Aug 06 02:35 PM

Thank you.

Obviously, including/having that phrase will make a big difference for the reader, but my question to you and all others is how many times do you see a sentence like that having the kind of phrase as you added? Not many I think. 

nona the brit  +  256841 Thu, 17 Aug 06 02:49 PM

The indefinite is correct.

Think about this.

This box contains a crayon, a pencil and a piece of paper.

Would you always want to say the crayon, the pencil and the piece of paper? We would use 'the' only if they are a specific crayon, pencil and piece of paper we already know about and need to emphasise that it really is those particular items, and not just any crayon, pencil and piece of paper.

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CalifJim  +  256887 Thu, 17 Aug 06 05:28 PM
When introducing the contents of something, the parts of something, or listing the components of something for the first time, we use the indefinite.  That's because we are not referring back to each particular element of the list as a particular, unique object in the universe.  We are only giving a generic idea of certain types of things.

Next to the plate were a knife, a fork, and a spoon.  (No particular knife, fork, or spoon mentioned earlier.)
The refrigerator contained a bottle of milk and a stick of butter.  (Etc.)
There was a paragraph at the beginning of the essay, a paragraph in the middle of the essay, and a paragraph at the end of the essay.
Inside the house was a small kitchen.
  (No particular kitchen mentioned earlier.)
The letter contains a reference to the prime suspect in the case.
This box contains a key and a paper clip.
The menu had a grouping for fish dishes, a grouping for chicken dishes, and a grouping for beef dishes.

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Believer  +  257223 Fri, 18 Aug 06 10:54 PM

Thank you Nona and Jim.

The thrust?? of my inquiry lies with the article usage with such terms as "beginning" and "ending." Whenever I see a word preceded with such a term, instinctively I try to put the article "the" unless my close scrutiny shows it otherwise. I think my confusion is being further fueled by the fact that we normally associate a with the concept of one, in addition to the notion of it being an indefiite article, and when I see the sentence like the one below, it having a makes me concentrate too much on the "one" concept.    Help me to set what seems to be a misguided perception straight.

The essay contains a/the beginnig paragraph, a/the middle paragraph, and an/the ending paragraph. 

Let me tweak it a little and ask you this way. How is this sentence in this context different from the one above?

A teacher has a packet of papers to grade. Among the papers are the best paper, the second best paper and  the worst paper.

Here, even an item in the list is being introduced for the first time, it  is still being modified with the definite article the. What's your thought on this.  

Ant_222  +  257232 Fri, 18 Aug 06 11:42 PM
«A» anyway:

«This certain cell contains a cat and a few mice.»

(© Nona)

What about this one:
«Every (or this) paragraph contains the first and the last sentences.»
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Clive  +  257248 Sat, 19 Aug 06 02:24 AM

Hi,

Let me try a different kind of explanation. The first time you mention something to me, say 'a'. That makes the thing specific/definite in our conversation. So thereafter, you can say 'the' and I'll know the thing you are talking about.

A man with a scar on his nose and a parrot sitting on his shoulder came into the room. The man sat down. The man smiled at me.

Best wishes, Clive

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