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Latest post Tue, Mar 11 2008 6:01 PM by Grammar Geek. 4 replies.
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Akavall  +  487221 Tue, 11 Mar 08 02:21 AM

I keep seeing on the news that Hillary won Texas, it is just mentioned by the way, but still.

Hillary won Texas the primary with  65 delegates to Obama's 61, but she lost the caucus 29-38. Therefore, the total delegate score from Texas is Hillary: 94; Obama: 99. Obama won Texas--not Hillary.

 

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CalifJim  +  487272 Tue, 11 Mar 08 07:06 AM
In politics, win is an ambiguous concept!  I imagine the definition of win that the reporters were using involved the popular vote, not the delegate count.

By the way, why do you compare one candidate's first name to the other's last name.  A lot of people do that and it puzzles me.  It seems it should be Obama and Clinton or Barack and Hillary. Smile

CJ 

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Lawyee  +  487289 Tue, 11 Mar 08 07:49 AM
CalifJim
“By the way, why do you compare one candidate's first name to the other's last name.  A lot of people do that and it puzzles me.  It seems it should be Obama and Clinton or Barack and Hillary. Smile

CJ 

 

Maybe it is because when I hear Clinton, I always imagine Bill Clinton. And maybe because Hillary is so "Hil(l)arious" - in a positive sense of the word.

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Akavall, 1 yr 241 days ago

CalifJim
“In politics, win is an ambiguous concept!  I imagine the definition of win that the reporters were using involved the popular vote, not the delegate count.

This could very well be true, but the reporters should've been more specific. Since the most important issue is the delegate count, my automatic assumption is that a candidate who got more delegates in a state won it. To me something like, "after winning Texas and Ohio.." sounds like Hillary won more delegates in Ohio and in Texas, which is misleading. They should've just said, "after winning primaries in Texas and Ohio".

CalifJim
“By the way, why do you compare one candidate's first name to the other's last name.  A lot of people do that and it puzzles me.  ”

I think because people normally refer to candidates by their last names, so people refer to Barack Obama as Obama. But it doesn't work that well for Hillary Clinton because if you say Clinton people think of Bill Clinton; therefore, you would have to say Hillary Clinton. And if you already said Hillary it is already understood who you are talking about, so Clinton gets omitted.

CalifJim
“Obama and Clinton or Barack and Hillary. Smile

I am sure this is the accurate way to say it Smile

Grammar Geek  +  487543 Tue, 11 Mar 08 06:01 PM

Look at her Web site and her political signs. She is the one who uses "Hillary." The news reports do use "Senator Clinton" and "Sentator Obama" in their first reference.

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