It’s exceptional, I’m sure of that. The US is so careful with checks and balances. It’s a funny thing that a nasty press helps to keep things in some kind of rough balance. But I just felt that I had to post that to wave to the guys on the other side of the debate.

Let me quote My indentation from Hadiya's talking..

"let me clear one thing that Muslims didn't hate western world or Christians"

Allah says in the Noble Qur'an (Sorat Al-momtahana verse 8 to 10) ::
(Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity…. It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will be friend them, then such are the zalimun (wrong-doers those who disobey Allah)). Finish

So any talking from me will not be as clear as the verse..

The second point is the war in Iraq..

Don’t say -New Yorker- that American don’t kills innocent, am in the country where its so close to Iraq land, and I have seen pictures cannot images by human, they are so evils there, killing kids to make mothers talking about the place where men hidden in !

Kills woman and Older.. Arabs before wasn’t kill any one don’t have gun, if the Arabic have..
Its matter in the Arabs from old centuries ago, before Islam, Islam came and encourage this manner and grow it up with his belief...
Don’t u hear about Vaitnam, Heroshima and Nagazaki ?
All this, America was hero in terrorism..
" The United States hates the killings in Palestine and Israel just as you do. We want it to end SOON"
if she want that she will do that, she don’t want, because a lot of things, electoral reasons for instance !
I don’t like to talk about Policy things, simply because I don’t know every thing happen all around the world- except what newspapers and TVs SHOWES us- I don’t like to be a judge.

But I think America is so far from JUSTS..

Conus Lotus:
U said: "Yes, America did some humiliating things to prisoners ... but they didn't chop their heads off!!!"

Oh my God will they have to stay till this moment?!

" If the Palestinians stopped murdering innocent women and children with bombs designed to kill as many innocent people as possible, maybe the Israelis would find them easier to like."

I think that – sorry- ur information is not enough, Israel is every thing there, Palestinian aggrieved and killed every day, not opposites!

DON’T U HEARD ABOUT MOHAMMAD AL -DORRAH?

New Yorker:
ur mentioned verses NOT complete and taken from middle so the meaning isn't clear, I'll give u example, if mother says to her young don’t touch the cup when it be hot, so u said don’t touch the cup and stopped ! u have to complete the meaning! (1)
the one in sorat Al Anfal says from verse 56 to 65: ( They are those with whom you made a covenant, but they break their covenant every time and they do not fear Allah… So if you gain the mastery over them in war, punish them severely in order to disperse those who are behind them, so that they may learn a lesson.. If you (O Mohammad saw) fear treachery from any people throw back( their covenant) to them( so as to be) on equal terms( that there will be no more covenant between you and them) certainly Allah likes not the treacherous…And let not those who disbelieve think that they can outstrip( escape from the punishment) verily, they will never be able to save themselves ( from Allah's punishment)… And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war( tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, etc.) to threaten the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides whom, you may not know but whom Allah does know. And whatever you shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not be treated unjustly… BUT IF THEY INCLINE TO PEACE, YOU ALSO INCLINE TO IT, AND (PUT YOUR) TRUST IN ALLAH. VERILY, HE IS THE ALL-HEARER. THE ALL-KNOWER. And if they intend to deceive you, then verily, Allah is all-sufficient for you. He it is who has supported you with his help and with the believers….And he has united their( believers') hearts. If you had spent all that is in the earth, you couldn’t have united their hearts, but Allah has united them. Certainly he is all-Mighty, All- wise…. O prophet Mohammad saw! Allah is sufficient for you and for the believers who follow you… o prophet Mohammad saw! Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast persons amongst you, they will overcome two hundred, and if there be hundred steadfast persons they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they ( the disbelievers) are people who do not understand..)) Finish
and the other in sorat albaqarah says: ( jihad ( holy fighting in Allah's cause) is ordained for you( Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.)) Finish

and some one else that we have science in Islam called ( TAFSSER) which give meaning for Qur'an done by old Muslim who live with the prophet and close of, I want just to show u that not any Muslim can give meanings without go back to those books (2)..
now..

** How should Muslims treat others (especially non-Muslims)?
NORMALLY, one day our prophet was with (ALsahaba)=( the men who follow him), and funeral passed by then our prophet stand up, Alsahaba said: it’s a Jewish funeral, then our prophet said: isn’t it a human soul ?

SO, the Muslims who follow Mohammad will respect human being, without racism.. the prohibits that to be a Jewish or Christian person in ministry jobs in Islamic country, this jobs( dangerous and looking after Islamic society) for Muslims only.

Some thing else in treating non-Muslims, Prophet Mohammad himself said "any one hurt (non-Muslims lived in Islamic countries) will be disallowed to enter the heaven))
One day, Prophet Mohammad saw an old woman carrying a heavy bag, the Prophet carried the bag for the woman to help her, when they arrived to the house of the woman, she thought to thank the man (who was the Prophet Mohammad), and she didn't find a thing better than saying to him "Oh son, be careful of a liar man called Mohammad; do not follow him, it is an advice from me" then prophet said "I'm Mohammad"!
Do you know what did the woman say? She said "I swear you're a prophet -messenger of ALLAH-" N.B. that woman was Jewish.

And Mohammad peace be up on him died when his direa( some clothes wear in war) still gage at Jewish man , and sometime his neighbor was Jewish. Its normally dealing, simply than u think…

" Have a good day"
you too!

Finally,
When an Italian man do something wrong, I can't generalize this personally action to all the people of Italy!
So why u generalizing all wrong to Islam if some Muslims get mistakes? I think religions are completed, the wrong always in followers..

what is JEHAD in Islam ?

I'll answer this question later inshallah..

hello from here to there , there & there


dear brothers and sisters ....


i dont know how to explain that but i will try....


1st of all... who told u that muslims hate weastern ?????

let me tell u that the islam is the most respectable religion and that what alot of nonemuslims said... and i can proove that in here by muslims responds and others....u could see how muslims r open mind and respectable....


however .... who said that the muslims hate eastern r wronge... and did a huge mistake... dont ever judge from ur chair... come and talk with arabs see how friendly r they ... and kind


i invite each on of u to see what am talking about.... there many americanes who prefered to live in middle east than in the u.s....why??? cause they found peace and more care from ppl around u than in u.s....

dont tell me that there was a peace b4 11/sept. .... cause i lived there and i saw what an americane so....each hour a kid r died cause of homeless or a man r killed cause of drugs...



let me discuss the point.... when u said that cause of 11/sep. case .... could i ask r u sure that muslims did really that??? u r not quiet sure ...know why ?? cause bn laddin u were talking about adoupted it not did that ....there is a different between did and adoupted.... and the u.s goverment r opening this case again nowaday......


dont tell me how could i know that ....or u r dreaming or what...cause this is not our case


our case here that someone wrote ...i dont know him and i dont wanna know him.... that muslims hate eastern ....


could i ask u how did u judge on that...???..... do u have any proove????
in middle east we r separating the goverment and its ppl..... cause we know not all the ppl r with its goverment ...... and i know that most of americanes r agains Bush and what he did in iraq and arab words .... cause they believe that he must fix things in the u.s before trying to pretend as a hero to other countries ...and most of americanes know why did Bush attack iraq... everyone hated saddam and wanna to kill him right ....but know the same ppl ...hated thier life when some bush's soldiers killed many ppl there...


dont tell me they had to .... they had to kill kidz????!!!@!@

i dont think so .... and if bush attack iraq cause of nuclear bombs why didn't he ask israel to do so....cause israel have the largest nuclear station......wasn
t i right on that?????


and about palesteniens again plz do not judge from ur country and from knowing thier new from tv stations ....come and u will c what they r sufferinf from ...

hey...let's think of an example

u r telling me that palestenien killed so many israeliens how could u know that...dont tell me from tv plz....each day alot of kidz r been killed over there why ....and why u rn't interested cause alot think that those kidz r carrying weapons (what a weapon a rock be hand called a weapon thses days)....

u will tell what about those guys who sourrounded them body by bombs and killed themselves to kill other israelienne ...let me tell u one things ...those guys did that now adays after living thier whole life in a deng. place...u dont know when u will next to killed by israelliens.....

let's return to our example ...it's weak but it will effect...


when i lock u in a room a small tiny room....and told u this is ur land dont u ever try to come to the hole or even to use the stairs to go out or even use the bath room....


and i locked that room let's say not for ur whole life for 300 years only ....can't u imagine what u will do .... and u know that somehow i will come one day and open the room....telling u that's my room now...and i dont want u to be in it ....get out ...i said "GET OUT"....

what u will do knowing all that will happend?????....u could get out from the window and break urneck...but u wont stay anymore longer right????


well imagine that all palesteniens r like that ????....so dont blame them of trying to let u n others pay attention to thier case...

well ok if that's not ur bussiness...just dont talk about muslims like u know them .....
and saying most of the time "well i thnk that muslims rn't open mind"


if muslims rn't open mind believe u rn't too....cause no one of u did respect muslims opinions in here....but muslims where most smarter than u all... cause they didn't respond ...do u know why...cause in islkam...we believed that some ppl won't agree enough so dont argue with them....cause u won't earn except hatteness from them ....

all of u think that muslims hate eastern .... but most of eastern sciences and president know that the most respectable religion is islam .....


hope u will understand me ..... or even try too....


thnx alot


best wishes to all of u

Is mobde3a intolerant of those who differ? I didn’t get that impression. The aim of mobde3a’s post seemed to be to boost tolerance and increase faith in Muslim ideals.

hi....


i read this article suddenly.....when i was searching for some information about islam....and muslims too..


i read what did mobde3a said....am with him/her dont judge without knowing the thing you are talking about.....



i will share some information about islam if want ..... and i dont think that muslim hate eastern am in wales now and i dont think so.......


i visited alot of places around the world .... eiroupe...south and north america...australia & whole africa .....


if u really want to know the answer of your question just visit islamic place that u could deal with muslims ......
;)



and i dont think of bigot when when am thinking of islam;)